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Episode 21: Route 91 Las Vegas Massacre, 6 years later
Prepare to question everything you thought you knew about the Route 91 Las Vegas Massacre. We're throwing out the conventional narrative and drawing back the curtain on a tragedy that left 60 people dead and over 800 injured. Stephen Paddock, the man at the epicenter of this chaos, doesn't add up as your typical shooter. So, who truly was this enigma who amassed a deadly arsenal in the Mandalay Bay Hotel?
No stone is left unturned as we dissect Paddock’s actions and examine the military industrial complex that facilitated his deadly spree. We scrutinize the baffling order to first responders to turn off their body cams, and the suspicious silence of politicians and media only two weeks post-tragedy. We're also diving into the chilling documentary, Root 91, that explores allegations of a cover-up and presents firsthand accounts that challenge the official story.
But our investigation doesn't stop there. We'll explore strange events surrounding the massacre: mystifying helicopters hovering over the Mandalay Bay Hotel, flashing lights sighted between the Delano and Mandalay Bay, and unnerving testimonies of machine gun fire from a helicopter. We even delve into the world of conspiracy theories, examining the potential involvement of government and big-name figures in the gambling industry, and the possibility of a multi-shooter plot. Hold tight, as this episode promises an eye-opening journey through one of America's darkest nights.
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Speaker 3:Meetings and salutations.
Speaker 2:What's up everybody?
Speaker 3:Welcome back to the Wise man podcast. Tonight we got a pretty serious episode. Oh, I forgot, I'm Louis. I am the master of battery powered lawn equipment.
Speaker 2:I'm D-MAT and I rip demon throats.
Speaker 4:I'm Jesse and I am not prepared for this. Laughter.
Speaker 3:We've always tried some new monikers or something, but thank you for joining us tonight we are going to be covering. This will be our episode 23,. Route 91, Las Vegas Massacre 6 years later. This is going to be an intense episode. There's a lot to go over. This is something we want to just go ahead and throw it out there. This isn't something that we are stating that never happened. This was a real event. People got hurt, People died. It's very traumatic for all involved. What we are contending, I guess you could say, is the facts of it, what actually happened. There's a real what's it called? The news stories that came out, the narrative that's out there, and then there's other things facts, I guess you could say. Well, we believe to be facts.
Speaker 4:Well, there's facts behind it that disapprove the narrative, but we'll talk about that.
Speaker 3:Yes, there's a separate counter narrative that we are going to cover tonight. Before we get too deep into it, though, if you could give us a like. Some follow us on Facebook, instagram, twitter.
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Speaker 2:If it has a search bar, type in our name. See if we pop up Right. Sometimes you need to space it, it's not all one word.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I knew you were going.
Speaker 3:Yeah, sometimes it's not all one word, sometimes it's three separate words. In case you can't find us, we'll fix that eventually. Probably not. Yeah, all right, so the the Ripper of Throats is going to take us through the official, the official narrative of the Las Vegas massacre.
Speaker 2:Yep. So before we get started, though, I do want to give a 10 second period of silence for all the victims and the people that suffered through this terrible, terrible tragedy. Okay, all right, let's dive right into it. So today is October 1st. It is the anniversary of the Route 91 concert festival, where what happened then, what took place, was a very devastating period in time, actually one of the, if not the worst, single person mass shootings ever recorded in United States history.
Speaker 2:So, getting into it, the Las Vegas shooting, it revolved around a mass murderer. His name is Steven Craig Paddock. If you don't know anything about him, go ahead and look him up. You can get a bunch of information online about him. So the official narrative is that Paddock opened the fire into a crowd of 22,000 concert goers attending the country music festival located just off of Las Vegas Boulevard, across the street from Mandalay Bay. There's a little intersection there, and it was on the southeast side of the strip. Jesse, I mean, you're a Las Vegas native. This area was, you'd say, is the beginning of the strip, right?
Speaker 4:So yeah, yeah, south end, right, yes, yeah.
Speaker 2:Right. Yeah, yeah, south end of the strip.
Speaker 4:Yeah, Kind of the beginning of like the actual, the mainstream strip right.
Speaker 2:Right, right. So Paddock is. He was held responsible for 60 people killed, injuring 867 others, with at least 413 that were wounded specifically by gunfire. You know the incident, like I said earlier, is the deadliest shooting by an alone shooter in US history. Paddock's motive was completely unknown and still unjustified till this day, which is a very interesting thing. When you're you know you have a suspect involved in a homicide, there's usually a motive that points the direction of. You know why this person did what they did and you know it actually shows a lot of roots and origin to the situation. So Paddock's interest was he. He was a guy who was really invested in real estate. He was a property manager, he was an accountant, he was a private pilot, he was also a. He was really heavily into the gambling scene, which, as a Las Vegas you know person of his attire, you know they're going to be involved in some sort of gambling.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, I think he lived in Perump, for sure, I think he, I think he might have lived in Perump, which is about an hour outside of Vegas he lived.
Speaker 2:he lived in Mesquite, nevada. I'm not sure where that is. Where's Mesquite?
Speaker 4:Where's Mesquite? I think Mesquite's about an hour northeast, somewhere around there 45 to an hour northeast, maybe a little bit longer than that.
Speaker 2:Gotcha Gotcha. So just to give us a little bit more background of who Stephen Paddock was, We'll talk a little bit about his early years and his education. But Paddock was born in Clinton, Iowa. He grew up in Tuscan, Arizona, and he also grew up in the Sun Valley neighborhood of LA. He was the oldest of four sons who, his parents, were Benjamin Paddock and Dolores Hudson. His father was a known bank robber who was arrested and caught in 1960. Paddock, you know he had studies done at California State University Also had a degree in business and administration. Wow, I didn't know that.
Speaker 4:Wow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Interesting stuff about this guy. Look at his background interesting stuff.
Speaker 4:Makes sense kind of ties in a little bit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, leading after his education and getting into his career base. He worked as a letter carrier for the United States Postal Service. He was there working with them from 1975 to 1978. After that he worked at the IRS, which is the International Revenue Service. He worked there until 1984. So we're going to go through his career. He's jumped around quite a few different things. In 1985, he worked as an auditor for the Defense Contract Audit Agency. Toward the end of the 1980s he also worked for three years as an internal auditor for a company that later merged into and what formed Lockheed Martin. So wow.
Speaker 4:I remember hearing that.
Speaker 2:Do you guys have any information about Lockheed Martin for the viewers or anything like that?
Speaker 4:Lockheed Martin Skunk Works. That's where they're making supposedly they're making UFOs, a reverse engineering alien space craft.
Speaker 2:They're a huge part of the military industrial complex. Their name is actually becoming super popular right now, especially with the UFO disclosure stuff. That's really bringing a lot of attention to them. But they've been responsible for a lot of different things Lockheed Martin, Boeing and all these other military industrial complex industries. They kind of like make me think of like Tony Stark and Stark Industries, Kind of a little bit more evil though, yeah, oh, no 100% 100% right.
Speaker 2:And on top of that, after he was being a part of Lockheed Martin and everything like that. So he managed real estate properties and he became an avid gambler and this is how he started to make a lot of his money. This guy was not a cheap person. He was sending hundreds of thousand dollars to relatives, girlfriends, across international waters and wiring money all over the place. But he was also known to be like a high roller gambler. He was seen in these high roller institutes that were in these casinos and when you're involved in things like that, you know you're meeting certain people like. You're coming across a bunch of high rolling. You know individuals like people that are millionaires, if not billionaires, right, they're just kind of spitting money all over the place.
Speaker 2:So, leading into this, a lot of things that people say that contributed to what he was held responsible for that night is that he was an alcoholic. He started drinking a lot, he started gambling like crazy and so and he also was known to be taking a lot of prescribed medications, like he was taking a lot of volume. He had really bad anxiety and he started at the end of his life, probably within the last year, year and a half. He started buying tremendous amount of weapons, at least, that were documented into his hands, into his name, and all this is traced back, you know, through the information that the ATF piled up on him and so on and so forth. So, getting into the shooting, the shooting started at 10.05 pm and the information is that he fired more than a thousand rounds. His hotel room that he stayed in, which was located in the Mandalay Bay, which is actually where we also had our groomsmen, a bachelor, party dinner, oh dinner yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we stood out on the foundation room's balcony and was able to look over the concert site where the Route 91 festival was. It was pretty eerie, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh yeah. It's crazy, especially when I walked down and we were at the pavilion in the front and we were kind of walking out towards the intersection out there where the bullets were technically like flying over into this crowd. I looked back at the Mandalay Bay and I'm like holy crap, man, like I'm actually sitting in a piece of history that's going to go on to the world ends pretty much. But like just imagining that scene as a first responder personally, it puts a lot of things in perspective. But the thing is, too, is that it didn't look like it was a very far shot, like people were claiming it to be, because it really wasn't that far.
Speaker 4:No, it's jumping a skip. It's like right across the street, literally Right right.
Speaker 2:So the hotel room that he got that night in the Mandalay Bay was 32-135. He checked into the hotel on September 25th, which was six days before the shooting, with 10 gun range bags or duffel bags or suitcases, whatever you want to call them and a computer. On the 29th he moved into an additional suite which was 32-134. So these two suites were connected to each other, to where he can go in through an access door and then go into the other suite and this is kind of where you see with the pictures of the Mandalay Bay, you see the two windows that were blown out. This is the narrative. And he was known to bring up multiple amounts of weapons. Like the amount of weapons that he brought up there, it's crazy that no one questioned really what the hell he was doing. Or, man, you got a lot of heavy ass bags and there feels like metal in here or something. But we know those bell boys or whoever doesn't really give a shit about anything, they just care about a tip. So the weapons that were included, we're going to go through them. So they included 14 AR style weapons, eight 308 AR-10s, one 308 Ruger bolt action, one 38 specials, and these AR-15 rifles were claimed to be outfitted with bump stocks, and we'll get into that kind of stuff later. I'm sure you guys got a bunch of good stuff on that. So his setup was set up with a lookout which was giving him optics down the hallway of that 32nd floor. And so what he set up was a baby monitor camera on top of a service cart. You see, like the they walking around with towels on them and got all this other stuff on them, right? So he set this camera up out there to give him an idea of giving himself his own security or his own surveillance for what he's getting ready to do, right? So he knows people are going to come after him, and what had happened was is that a security guard had seen some suspicious activity up there and, with the baby monitor picking up a security guard coming to the door, patek shot 35 rounds through the door, injuring the security guard, and then this is what also activated a lot of response.
Speaker 2:To get into a little bit more depth information, we'll talk about the police response. The police response was at first it was two officers that responded at 1017 and they made it to the 32nd floor around that time. This is all documented through dispatch. They were waiting for backup at that time, but as they were waiting for backup, they were clearing rooms. And as they were clearing rooms, eight more officers show up at around 1026 1030 PM and they joined up with the squad of two and later on, at 1055 PM Again, they haven't made any contact with with Patek at this time Eight SWAT team members entered the 32nd floor through the stairwell and once all the rooms were cleared off of the 32nd floor, which which all rooms were cleared, at 1120 PM, which this is 65 minutes after Patek ceased fire police breached his room, finding him with a gunshot to the head and he was known to commit suicide.
Speaker 2:And I know that when they were later investigating a lot of other things after the fact that they found they found over 1600 rounds of ammunition in his vehicle that was in the parking lot, that they found 50 pounds of tannerite and that they found ammonium nitrate they found a bunch of other things that could have alluded to the fact that he had more nefarious, you know, ideas. So I guess we'll go in from there, and the biggest thing that interests me was was the police response. Now, louis is a SWAT member and he's got a lot of experience in this field. What do you? I guess I started off by asking you the question what do you think of the police response? And I know that I think you even said that you were listening to radio traffic, right, that was going online.
Speaker 3:So when this event happened, obviously it hit the news and so I pulled it up on on my phone. It's just free app, it's just radio, a scanner app, right, and it had the Las Vegas PD on there so I was listening to it. I was listening to them the traffic that was going on inside the hotel when they got up into the, into the stairwell and the hallway, before they went down the hallway to the guys room. I want to say I got a call because I was at work.
Speaker 3:I want to say I got a call and didn't get to hear the ending of it.
Speaker 2:But right, right I heard that stuff. What as a SWAT member? What is it that you know, I guess is the. Is it a freelance game? How exactly do you guys go about SWAT? Are you guys given an order and you guys just kind of go in and do what you got to do?
Speaker 3:I mean there's always, there's always a plan that gets punched out to us. You know, we get alerted, we get together and like if we're going to make an approach on a room and like to assault this room.
Speaker 3:If there's, the way it goes is obviously you're assigned your particular team. They'll be like an Alpha team, Bravo team, containment team, stuff like that, but typically like if you hear gunshots, like you're moving fast, gunshot stop. It becomes a little more methodical. So if they were on scene at the hallway, they're going to be moving fast to get as fast as they can to get there. I mean, hotel doors aren't, I can't imagine. They're the easiest to breach. So like there's got to be a plan to breach the door. Right.
Speaker 3:I don't. I don't know what they did in order to breach, if they did like an explosive breach or if they were able to just ram it to get inside. So, but if he wasn't like actively shooting while they were out in the hallway, they probably took a little more time to do it.
Speaker 2:So in this scenario, do you think that a Do you think that them breaching his room specifically, which I think his room was, the furthest down the hall? Correct I think? I think, looking at the the images of where the windows were blown out, I think it was towards the end of the hallway and I'm assuming that you know you guys are gonna end up clearing the rooms that are closest to the interior part of the building, right closest towards the middle, and then moving Distal, I guess.
Speaker 3:Well, if we know where it's coming from, uh, there's a good chance that you'll bypass everything else, and you might. You're gonna have guys that'll be Like looking right, you're not just necessarily ignoring like those doors don't exist, but like if you have. If you it's like known location of the suspect, then there's no reason for you to clear everything else, necessarily right.
Speaker 2:Is there anything fishy like that? You see, about the, the. I guess the time that it took to breach his room I guess it took 65 minutes I mean I don't think there's anything again.
Speaker 3:Like I'm not gonna monday morning for to back this Is well, I'd say, like swat isn't a fast response, like if swat's involved like we take, it takes time.
Speaker 4:To get there.
Speaker 3:I don't know if Vegas has like a full-time team, but if they don't have a full-time like I'm pretty sure they do yeah.
Speaker 3:Okay, I mean it would make sense that they, that they would, but, like, at the time of day, like most full-time guys are like eight to five, so they, that's what they do, but they're just training, right, and then their own call. So it would take those guys time to get there. Uh, it probably took time to Just even figure out where this guy was shooting from. Right, right, right. So, like it's it, it isn't a fast thing. And then you got to Figure out. Or all right, if he's on this floor, are we sure he's in this room? We're positive. All right, then he's still got to make a plan. It's not just rushing in necessarily right.
Speaker 4:Well, in this scenario, the security guard got shot Right, so they knew exactly where he was at that point. Okay, how long was that right?
Speaker 3:right how long was into. The scenario was that?
Speaker 2:so that was at. That was at Let me take a look here. I lost it, but I think it had to be around. So the the shooting started at. I think it was 10 of 7, something like that. So if the, if the first shot into the crowd, this, this, the issue with the security guard, I think, came just before that. I think this is what ramped him up to then go Holy shit, I gotta get done, or you?
Speaker 3:know. So, right at the very beginning, security guard get shot um Response. Let's say the response starts from there. 65 minutes later I'd say that's probably pretty reasonable. Yeah realistic for a SWAT team to get there right gear up an hour.
Speaker 4:Leave your house gear up. Yeah, that makes make a plan, do all the things that's pretty kind of quick. I mean, it's a small big city, you can get anywhere in 30 minutes, but still it's like that's, that is not. Uh, that's not a long, that's not a, but it's a pretty good response time, I think that makes sense.
Speaker 2:So the first shot was at 10.05. That's when it was 10.05 According to the resources online. So I know, especially like when this took place I mean it was on like everyone's snapchat, it was on everyone's instagram people were posting videos and a lot of these, these people that went through it they have their own stories too about what happened and I think those stories are super important to like. You know, debrief on the side, but I think that a lot of those stories also go against the, the official story per se. I mean there's a lot of, there's even a lot of stories that there were multiple shooters from different angles. You know Audio gunshots coming from there was, you know opposite of mandalay bay.
Speaker 4:There was over 500 911 calls and they were scattered up and down the strip Up and down. That's crazy. It was coming from ground, it was coming from air. There was there's a lot of Uh Bullshittery going on with this, this whole operation.
Speaker 2:So what do you? Uh, what do you think Went down that night? Do you think it was? So, let me just not as official as they.
Speaker 4:I'll tell my story because I was in vegas and I was. I've lived in vegas since, uh, 2006. I moved from new york, but I was in it's 2017. I was at my buddy Jason's house and we're drinking, having a fun time and yeah, I'd say yeah. It's probably somewhere around 10 11 o'clock and I got a phone call From a worker, a co-worker of ours, and he was running and he was we're getting shot at, we're getting shot at. He's just losing his mind like and I'm like what the fuck is going on? And he's like you can't hear that, you can't hear that. I'm listening to it like real close, and I was on the phone with him for like I don't know 10 minutes and, yeah, at one point you could hear faint automatic fire in the background, really disturbing.
Speaker 4:So that was very disturbing and you know, at the time, me and my buddy were just drinking, like what the fuck? And I was telling I don't want to say his name, but I was telling him, like, hey, buddy, like, and we had worked him on the next day. I think, um, I think he I can't remember what day, what day was that, do you remember? I think I thought it was a weekend the next day. Okay, regardless, you mean?
Speaker 2:you mean, what day october 1st was?
Speaker 4:yeah, but I don't know it doesn't matter, I'm assuming a weekend right, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 4:Um, my, my gm For my company was at the festival and left early. Um, my soon to be. He eventually ended up being a office guy, but another co-worker of mine, higher up guy, was there. A bunch of co-workers of mine went there Right and later on I actually ended up a year later or so, two, three years later. I run into people all the time that were there, and I ran into one lady and she was telling me about it and I think this might have been a month or a year later I think it was over a year and she was just telling me she had to go to, you know, therapy and her and her husband were both there and they were Right next to somebody that was shot directly in the head and it just is so traumatizing. And so I've heard, you know, first-hand account stories From people and it's really disturbing, it's really sad. Um, but my thoughts on all of this are particular and different because Of a documentary I watched, and this documentary is called root 91, uncovering the cover-up Of the vegas mass shooting, and this documentary was made by an investigative journalist, mindy Robinson, from vegas, and um, I'll just give you on october 1st 2017, 58 people were killed at the root 91 country music concert in las vegas and by two weeks the media dropped the entire story due to all the lies and holes in the police and fbi story.
Speaker 4:These are all the things they've covered up about the tragedy that they don't want you to know about. Mindy Johnson produces documentary and has disclosed that and has Disclosed that. Youtube is actively hiding the video. So this video, this documentary, um, maybe we can try to find a way to put it in the description or something like that. We can try to find a way to do that, but it's really hard to find online.
Speaker 4:Um, but this, it's very disturbing documentary. I remember when I watched it with my wife, we cried. The first time we watched it. It was just there's so much evidence, there's so many testimonies of people that were there, um, and it's, it's just disturbing. You know it's it's really sad, it's disturbing. Um, this, this documentary, in my personal opinion, I've watched it twice now and it's been a while since I watched it but it proves, undoubtedly proves that the narrative from the media that it was one shooter is a hundred percent false. A hundred percent false, and that's because of all the testimonials and the videos. There's so much evidence, it's it's undeniable with at this point and I don't know if you want to bring up the first video. If you, if you got anything in mind, um, where should we start with that?
Speaker 2:So I guess we could start off that. We'll just talk about what was kind of like in the area that night. As far as you know, the helicopters, planes, things in the sky Um, I'm not saying UFOs did this shit, but but what I'm saying, what I'm saying is that there was a there's, there's, easy apps you can download on your phone that, where you can, you can navigate and you could see what's in the air, what's taking off, where's it going, and so on. In the documentary, too, it showed that there was a helicopter radar footage that showed To turn off their responders and they and the route that they took was from north of the strip, coming from north of the strip, and they were coming down over the route 91 concert festival Location and as soon as they went over the location, their transmitters were turned off right and I believe this is this specifically this helicopter base was a tour helicopter company that would give tours.
Speaker 4:I believe it's called Maverick and I think they closed down. That might be in the video, but I think they closed down like literally right after this happened and I remember this company had a buddy that worked for this company too which is crazy. What company, I think it's called Maverick. I believe it's called Maverick. Oh, the helicopter company.
Speaker 2:Okay, that's where they took off so Gotcha, so we're gonna show you guys this clip and See, you'll give you guys see what we're talking about and one of the things that has always bothered me about this, this massacre of the shooting, is that it disappeared from the media like Two weeks later.
Speaker 3:Nobody talks about it now as much as guns and gun rights, and people are always trying to Get rid of the second, second amendment like this never comes up. This is it's gone. Like it is a blip Right right. It's not, it's happened two weeks later Nothing.
Speaker 2:Well, you think you know, Senators or, you know, representatives, would use this as like they have. They did, they did the media, the media stopped covering it.
Speaker 4:I think they shut up about it, though the media stopped covering because there's too many holes in the story and the narrative right, oh sure, but of course the politicians they tried to, you know, mention this before just like any other mass shootings, Of course. Well, they could have even been told to shut the hell up from like deep state Maybe Ops.
Speaker 2:I mean like, yeah, people like, hey look, I know we want to. This is perfect for our agenda, but what year was what year?
Speaker 4:was the parkland shooting in that school, so the parkland was was Valentine's.
Speaker 2:Day, what year? That's funny, because I even went to that high school.
Speaker 4:Oh my god.
Speaker 2:Did you really? That was the high school I went to yeah, oh my god, you went to parkland. You know, it's easy yeah oh my god, you went to parkland. You know it's even more. You know it's even more. Crazier is that my dad teaches at a delinquent school in coconut creek down south florida, and and and the kid was in his class.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah remember you telling me that the kid was suspended, okay, and he was put in a delinquent school and he was in my dad's class. My dad even said that he would draw like demons on a on a paper and all kinds of stuff and at the fbi even came in there and even asked him for you know his file pretty much, and so he, my dad, had cut him out of the class. I know we're kind of getting off topic, but this is interesting stuff, so that is my dad.
Speaker 2:My dad Basically expelled him because he ended up not showing up for a certain amount of time. And so, what do you know, I'm later the kid. The kid goes to the school and ends up shooting up the place, and your dad wasn't there, obviously.
Speaker 2:My dad wasn't there, my, my buddies, who work for core springs police department and fire. You know, guys, that I grew up in the area and I left home. Basically, you know I'm saying so and they, they said there was some, some weird things that did take place, at least with that pertaining to fbi taking over the scene and, you know, not allowing police to go in, especially when shots were still being heard right, that's a weird thing about some of these.
Speaker 4:That's a weird thing about some of these school shootings that's another thing about the school stuff is the same thing happened in Texas. They wouldn't allow, the cops wouldn't go in. Regardless of that, that's another. We can get into that at a different topic.
Speaker 2:But what year I'm gonna play this clip. What year was?
Speaker 4:what year was parkland? Uh, man, I think 2018. Oh okay, oh well a year, just a year after so we're gonna play this clip for for the viewers here and my point with that is that parkland was brought up. Uh, parkland's remembered a lot more than the 90 root 91, and then you probably can thanks out thank you, right ones for that.
Speaker 6:By aircraft that the lvpd never tried to explain or even acknowledge.
Speaker 5:And they're going to stop directly behind the mandalay bay. So this first one Hover's right there, right over mandalay bay, right over the event center, kind of oval shaped roof there, right over there comes the. That's crazy, it's crazy you could see two, three helicopters coming in. What happened? Is it turned off its transponder?
Speaker 2:Look, they're all turning off the transponders exactly in the same location off their transponders as well.
Speaker 4:I think there's one of them that keeps it on they remain there.
Speaker 5:No transponder signals come back on, but I might be wrong for the duration of the shooting. So they turned off their transponders at about 952 and no more turned off transponders here at 952.
Speaker 2:But what's interesting was that 10 of us. We have no radar data showing flights in that area? Yeah, so the they shut off their transponders at 952, and the first shot was taken at 10 o 5. What's most interesting, too, is in that location, where those helicopters are at well, there's a private airfield. That's there, right, right. And that that private airfield Is where the gannet airlines Are located, where, if you guys don't know what the gannet airlines are, this is the airline red stripe.
Speaker 4:That goes there 51. Is that yeah?
Speaker 2:they're the red, yeah, they're the red striped airplanes that take about 190 In capacity. Each plane to the test site 51 the test? Yeah, it's basic. Yeah the test. There's more than which area 51 is known to to be a weapons test site right, and there's other multiple test sites in the area.
Speaker 4:I mean how much of nivada is Is owned by 76 percent, I believe is owned by the government. 76 percent, I believe. You can fact check me on that. But Bureau of land management owns Somewhere around upwards of 70 and 80 percent. So, what do you guys think about?
Speaker 2:the what's your theory? I mean, what could have taken place with the helicopter over that area?
Speaker 4:let me take this to so. Okay, so the testimonials on video with the documentary right, listen. Sorry, I'm making you guys laugh.
Speaker 4:It's not funny, okay there's, there's multiple testimonials that the shots were coming from a helicopter. There's one where a guy says my girlfriend says that helicopter is making funny noises and he goes what do you mean? That's a machine gun coming from the helicopter. He told her and he was one of the guys that was shot in the stomach, I believe. And there's a couple more. There's a couple more testimonials where they see between Delano and Mandalay Bay there's flashing, and I believe we got a video of that too on here somewhere I think I sent that to you but there's flashing in between the Delano I believe it's the Delano and Mandalay Bay and you can see muzzle flash, mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:So you're saying what their claim is that there was a helicopter rotating around at like a low level no, like high level how high in the air are we?
Speaker 4:talking about. So we're talking about a definitely above midway of Mandalay Bay, so upwards towards the top of Mandalay Bay and Delano, okay, in between gotcha, and there's also, you know, the documentary also goes over ballistics and they she goes over the angle that these people were shot somewhere shot from a ground angle, somewhere shot from direct, almost directly above angle, somewhere shot from exactly what I was just saying, the angle coming from Mandalay Bay down towards the route 91, fest right well, bullet trajectory would play a huge role in the schematics of all this.
Speaker 4:You have that. I did did. Did you get the that video?
Speaker 2:I know I sent that's the only one that I know I lost. I lost that one for sure. Yeah, it's a good they're all good though but yeah, but she was going through in the video and she was showing you know who got hit, where, where were their injuries were located and there's a whole map you know, there's a whole map yeah, there's a whole map of it yeah it's incredible.
Speaker 4:Yeah, for sure, yeah this, this lady really does her homework like she. She does a great job. She did a great job with the documentary.
Speaker 2:It's incredible the amount of I know, I know for sure there was a lot of people that when they first started, I mean this is like even coming from, I think it was, I don't know if it was the original video. Do you remember that original video where they're videoing from? It had to be maybe a hundred feet from Jason Aldean and they were kind of off to the? Was there a fence? Two o'clock, three o'clock position of the stage, and so they're videoing and all of a sudden you hear.
Speaker 4:You hear that you know that's the video that they played at. They turn on the LN, they turn to the left.
Speaker 2:They turn to the left, which is where that Janet airline property is located okay, and that's not even.
Speaker 4:That's to the yeah, that's to the left, that's to the south southeast, that's to the south east of the stage.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so they're turning, they're looking to the southeast east of the stage where the Mandalay Bay was, on the southwest right area right now. I'm not saying that there weren't gunshots coming from there, you know right, coming from the Mandalay Bay, and that's another thing. That's another thing about all this.
Speaker 4:There's so many people that said there was gunshots rang out from all different angles, all different parts of the, the area that they're in, like they were coming from probably where you were saying, and the hotel. I'm not saying Steven Paddock wasn't involved there, he didn't kill anybody.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying there's no right right there's more to it than just him.
Speaker 3:It wasn't a solo trajectory video here, if you want me to screen share.
Speaker 2:I don't think I'll be able to pick it up. Maybe we'll see. We try it out, okay give it a shot we're gonna try it out. Oh yeah, yeah, it works, let's do it okay.
Speaker 6:Okay, folks, we're as focusing on Louis screen a little bit more digging and based off what I was able to match between victim reports and the anonymous audio at all using things like.
Speaker 4:Jen here. I'm hair color tattoos, and that's good placement of their wounds this is the video to analyze several of the more unusual trajectories.
Speaker 6:Am I an expert at this? No, but I can read reports.
Speaker 6:I do have a video, I'm done apparently more effort than the FBI put into this entire investigation. They didn't run ballistics to match the bullets from the victims to the guns in the room either, none that they're willing to release anyway. Most fatalities were hit at the diagonal and downward angle. You would expect from someone firing from Mandalay Bay, but not everybody. Those yellow circles are people that were hit with a near perfect parallel ground trajectory within the difference of a half inch so pause real quick while some could simply be paused, okay, so what are we looking at here?
Speaker 2:I think she's gonna describe this where's? Where's the Mandalay Bay? Yeah, that's what. I was kind of wondering, trying to I'm trying to look, trying to think where the Mandalay Bay is.
Speaker 4:That that's the stage right here in the middle.
Speaker 2:So I think okay, so Mandalay Bay would be bottom left and Janet airline property would be bottom right. If this is how we're looking, because the stage was facing north, because the gunshots did come, yeah, you can see the people that got, most of the people that are dead or favoring the left side, so you can see that it's most likely coming from Mandalay Bay in that area. But then they draw the trajectory, trajectory lines coming from the the right side here, which is interesting right, yeah oh, and you can see these people were running bro.
Speaker 2:Yeah, of course these people were running dude as brutal, absolutely she'll probably tell us he ricochets.
Speaker 6:This seems more like a pattern and a couple of so many witnesses stating they heard shots coming from the main stage and at ground level certainly deserves more of an investigation than it was given. At least 19 out of the 58 autopsies appear to have parallel trajectories, from what I can tell from these reports. That blue circle the second closest victim to Mandalay Bay. He was hit almost vertically from the top of his head down.
Speaker 6:That extreme elevated trajectory happened to at least three other individuals that night it's important where all the bodies were found right.
Speaker 1:The first 20 we call were found in front of the stage, and a lot of them had headshots. Then there was a group of six bodies that were found in close proximity, right between the church and the festival ground, so this would be on the street on the east side of the festival grounds which is behind a long privacy wall. There they were found along the fence line. So there's no way that a person, if you can't shoot, look, pause that.
Speaker 2:Look at where the shoot. The sniper is on the right did you see that? So you see, see the where the guns are located on the right, yeah, that's that's. That's the area of what I'm kind of getting at and talking about, to where right, and that's in that, where we were looking to.
Speaker 4:We were on the balcony looking at that too. You were talking about that well, there's there's.
Speaker 2:There's talk that there were possible drones, that there were, you know, helicopters. There's talks of that there could have been shooters on the airfield tanks that were out there. I mean, there's all kinds of theories.
Speaker 3:So you made it creepy is the one that I had heard not too long after, like probably within a month of event. That's the one that I'd heard and had seemed to hold water to me yeah, can you summarize?
Speaker 2:that theory real quick.
Speaker 4:We'll get into that, for sure you wait, you said some creepy stuff earlier about how paddock was found with computers in his room and that maybe he was the one flying the drones around.
Speaker 2:I'm like, damn, yeah, so they found eight computers in his room with one of them missing hard drive. So I don't know why one of them. Well, I mean, I'm not a super techie guy, but you need a hard drive, like you need some sort of memory to operate your CPU, gpu, all that kind of stuff, and for the hard drives to be missing, it's kind of like they did. You know, this whole storage, all the information that was on the computer, is missing. Where did it go exactly?
Speaker 4:where did it go?
Speaker 3:like I was, like the main computer could have been the master and the other ones could have been slaves, and like it could have run that way. But if you pull the master, one like that's where all the right, all the data is right up to everything else.
Speaker 3:So yeah, I mean personally I think this guy was, he was set up. I'm not again, like Jesse said before, I'm not saying he didn't kill people, I'm not saying that he didn't, you know, do all the shooting, but there's a lot of stuff that just doesn't make sense with his behavior that night and like at least the things that they found like it.
Speaker 2:Just it seems excessive but the whole fact that remember like they didn't like did not pinpoint a motive on this guy yeah, at all right, there's no motive for you know, and it makes me think that when we're pulling in all this information, that, okay, so the helicopters came in, he's got a bunch of computers with high-tech and he's got a bunch of calculations in his freaking in the room. Right, they said that they found calculations of bullet trajectory and all this other kind of stuff. Maybe he's putting in that data. They maybe it's. Maybe it's something that they thought were calculations for him shooting and Coriolis effect and all this stuff, but, like, maybe it was data he was inputting into the system he was also because maybe it's what the drones needed.
Speaker 2:I don't know wow, they said.
Speaker 4:He was also like, not that, there's still not a motive, but he was planning to go to a festival before this. I think it was the I heart festival, I think.
Speaker 2:I think they said I think they said he was planning on going to multiple because he was his route of travel was around all. He was going to different states and locations and what? The one that okay.
Speaker 4:So let's, let's, let's, let's, let's bring this up. If you got it, if you don't got it, you're killing me, smalls. There is a anonymous tipper early September posting on reddit saying that everybody steer clear of the strip. In early October there's going to be a government operation of high something, high sense, high priority, and I believe I sent you this one. Please tell me you have it is this video you sent me.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yep, what I mean I don't remember watching anything like a real, like, like that's a huge thing yeah, there's more than this, there's more than that, I mean.
Speaker 4:I encourage everybody to watch this documentary.
Speaker 2:It is packed full of data so okay, so let's say it was, it was real and this was a government operation. Was it like a test?
Speaker 4:right, this is the question. Like weapons, this is the question why?
Speaker 3:yeah, I can't see these gunk works is nearby, right? Oh yeah, that private airstrip that that is nearby. Don't they have a hanger there, I'm sure?
Speaker 2:they do, they do so so that have a hanger there there's.
Speaker 3:There was that other Air Force base that you mentioned earlier. Right, that's not far away, right?
Speaker 2:so that, yeah. So actually, look, jesse, it's. It's by the area where we weren't camping our last camping trip awesome out there. So there is an Air Force base that's located. It's in that south we're talking about recently.
Speaker 4:We just went the most recent, just one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's almost like near the river. That's where I go shooting, that's where I go to.
Speaker 4:BLM land. I go out there, go pew pew it's, sometimes it is the.
Speaker 2:It's called the Creech Air Force Base and it's a United States Air Force command and control facility in Clark County, nevada. It's used to engage in daily overseas contingency operations and remotely piloted aircrafts.
Speaker 4:Okay, you just real quick question is it on the east side of the road where I am? Is it on that? Yes it's on the same side as us. As we were, we went. Yeah, how far away.
Speaker 2:There's nothing over there is it? Is it on the other side of?
Speaker 4:the river.
Speaker 2:I don't know specifics of exactly where it is. I know it's real now, now, now before 2017 and 2016. There was a lot of protesters that went to that specific base, because this is where they hold predator drones, they hold ground to air.
Speaker 2:I know that on a smaller scale, they they're testing all these things out there, right, and so what's what's interesting is that you know like, was this a weapons test? Did they fly this shit from there or did they put these, these things on these helicopters and drop them in the area? Because I mean, if we're talking about like drones, we're not. I'm not talking about specifically predator drones.
Speaker 2:I'm talking about like drones that people fly, like with a gun hanging off of it with it, with an AR hanging off of it, and so I'll bring up on the stream right now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, that one ready yeah, so we'll, we'll bring that up right now, and so let me bring this up and this is what I'm talking about. So this is, this is called the AR-1 and this is a drone that can fire an assault rifle. And if we look at it dude Louis, check this out you guys see it on the stream, it's. It's sick. Now, when this kid, when this theory came out in 2017, heard a guy talking about it, it was not as good-looking as this.
Speaker 2:Like this one is sexy nothing looking yeah, so, and I know that in 2017, these, these gained a lot of popularity because we, as the United States military, were sending these drones over to Israeli military and we were sending them over there because they don't want a lot of soldiers dying in the constant. You know hundreds of years of war that they've been at with the Palestinians. But this is real people. This, these drones are real, they exist and this is what a lot of people may have been claiming that they were hearing in the air. You know gunfire. You know from from all angles, these things are not particularly loud, like, especially if they're a hundred hundred fifty feet in the air. You can't feel the wind, you can't hear them, necessarily, but the gunfire is gonna be, you know, pretty obvious, and so this goes over. So this isn't so.
Speaker 2:The AR1, designed for mounting lightweight weapons such as submachine guns and assault rifles, highly shockproof, high strength, high endurance. In the frontline of war zone or special police attack when the enemy and friendly are in a stalemate, they can carry out multi-angle attacks and disturbances in the air to gain the advantage of attacking and moving forward. Well, I didn't know that kind of strategy behind it, but these things are pretty accurate too. I was even watching videos of them shooting these rifles at targets that were a hundred yards out, and they were pretty accurate.
Speaker 2:I think this goes, goes. I mean, there's a video here, we'll play a video too.
Speaker 4:What We'll play a video. Where did you see that? What was it like a private?
Speaker 3:I'm sure he just saw it on YouTube somewhere.
Speaker 4:Right, but who the hell is performing that Like? That's crazy.
Speaker 2:Look, there's a video of it right now.
Speaker 3:Well, I mean this isn't new, like they've been working on this type of stuff for a long time.
Speaker 4:I can assume that and be 100% correct.
Speaker 3:So this particular one in this article, though it says it's a Taiwanese company.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I'm assuming because of the hardware that's in it, maybe the CPU or the GPU or something.
Speaker 3:Maybe it's a red.
Speaker 2:Maybe it's ran by an Nvidia, maybe the same graphics card I have right now you highly doubt it. Dude? Well, listen, if it is, if it has the ability to be controlled with a computer, it's got to have a graphics card it's got to have a CPU.
Speaker 4:But I'm just saying you would think that their graphics card is way better, bro, than yours.
Speaker 2:Now, as I'm starting to think about this, I'm kind of thinking like did was Paddock really controlling drones inside the room? That's interesting, because he has to be within range right For maybe those types of computer systems that are affiliated with those drones. I'm sure the Predator drones are completely different, those things you can fly. They can't hover though Hundreds of miles away.
Speaker 4:They can't hover though like that. I'm sure they have something to do with it.
Speaker 2:I'm saying the, the latency in connection and all that kind of stuff. Oh, I got you. From a remote control to yeah, so, but what's also interesting, putting this whole theory together, is that the Janet Airlines is owned by a guy named Ernie Moody, and so it's he doesn't own it specifically, but he is the guy who owns the warehouse that's out there, and inside this warehouse he's got like a bunch of toys, he's got a Batmobile. He's super rich guy. He makes $25 million a month, okay.
Speaker 4:Light work.
Speaker 2:But what I found interesting a connection, I mean a connection that I made between Ernie Moody and Paddock is that Ernie Moody runs and controls the patent for video game poker. What was what, what, what, what. What was Paddock most interested in in the gambling field was a video game poker video yes, Video poker. So it wasn't specifically video poker.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so video poker is different from like you going and playing a friends party poker. Video poker is like five yeah.
Speaker 2:It's completely well. No, video poker can be anything, but it's like those things that you see in the casinos where it's got to grow with like a broad. She's the dealer, you know, and it's kind of like a screen that's wait a minute.
Speaker 4:That's because the video that everybody knows here is like five card stud and the five cards pop up. You pick the best hand you can.
Speaker 2:Sure, it could be well regardless, doesn't matter. But yeah, it's a game like what you're saying and a habitual gambler. Yeah, so what if it's possible that maybe they even use that, that private property, to get these drones in the air? You know it's, I mean it's secured with a possible. It's very possible, right.
Speaker 3:That's right across the street right.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's right across the street, like the airports right there, all right now. Ok, so if Patek, if Patek's the mastermind behind this right and he's got his buddy across the street, why is it that the police are caught on camera saying, is everybody's body cam off? Is everybody's body cam off? Like, what's that about? We'd have to ask the cop, like why, why are you turning all your body cams off? Pull that video real quick. That's a short one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, pull that video. That is a.
Speaker 3:It is super interesting and that sounds like it goes against just basic SOG, right out of the gate, which?
Speaker 4:is SOG, is what?
Speaker 3:Standard operating guidelines, or it could be SOP standard operating procedure.
Speaker 4:What's up with you military guys? Acronyms for everything. Just shorter, faster. All right, I'll shut up. I'm sorry, forgive me yeah. I'm a civilian like.
Speaker 3:I said earlier, shorter and faster, buddy Like. It's just like sex.
Speaker 4:I don't know what you're talking about. You find it. So what are you bringing up now?
Speaker 2:So it's a video, but the video actually deleted. Oh fuck me.
Speaker 6:Yeah, no.
Speaker 5:Which one is it? It's OK, it's the first time we're kind of working out our production.
Speaker 2:It's a video. Yeah, it's a first time, some new stuff. Yep, try some new stuff.
Speaker 4:Technical I'll see.
Speaker 4:I'm going to, I'm going to try and bring it up on, I'll try and bring it up, but we can just we can keep it flowing here while I get to, so yeah, they, they there's a video of that and it just it seems this, at least this documentary and everything coming out of it, it really seems like it was a coordinated mass construction and there's more to just the cops doing that Stephen Paddock, the projectiles and the trajectory. It's also has to go into money and after this video we can kind of dive into that. There is a lot of big names, the CEOs, and CEO of MGM is involved with this. There's a lot of big names that took money out or were betting against MGM stock in September, early September, a month before this or not even a month before this happened.
Speaker 2:So it is weird.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and we'll. We'll pull that video up to after this, but.
Speaker 2:I got the video up now. We'll transition into it. So this is a video of cops that.
Speaker 4:Metro Police Department. Mm, hmm.
Speaker 2:That were told to shut their body their body cams off. That's crazy, dude. Camers off, cameras off Turn your body cams off. Play one more time. Play one more time for everybody and I'll pause the tweet. So it says hmm, that's interesting. The Reno Police Department reported the doorhead been left unlocked and the window blew open the door. I guess I don't know. See, there's so much like cross information. That's just like not making sense.
Speaker 4:It's because the narrative from the media was fabricated completely and there is so many. The reason why there's so many holes is because there's just people knew this information. There's people that had the key card information and the data from the hotel. I mean there's so many holes in the narrative.
Speaker 2:So many when the I was watching some footage today of the, the public information officer debrief of the entire investigation.
Speaker 4:The situation dude it's so ridiculous how he handles it.
Speaker 2:What's what's? What's crazy is so ridiculous. I don't know, I forget who it was. I think it might have been the actual police chief, yeah it was it was.
Speaker 2:It literally looked like he was. He was well. First of all, he's reading off of a paper like, like 100%, his eyes didn't come off of the paper, but there's a dude that's standing over his left shoulder, that is locked in on him, and that is like it's almost like he's making sure that you are reading off of that paper Right. And what's crazy is because a lot of the the journalists that were in the crowd, they're asking him specific questions that don't pertain to the information that he's disclosing and it's almost like they're questioning, you know, his, the whole narrative that he's you know telling everybody, and and he's constantly just shutting questions down, shutting this question down. He's like I can't answer this, we can't get into this investigation.
Speaker 4:We can't get us live. I remember watching.
Speaker 2:And what's crazy, dude, is the guy that's over his left shoulder literally snaps and looks at a lady and he looks to his right and he's like, he's like, does like this, like body, he's talking with his body and and and he looks again at her like dude, this guy didn't blink, bro. He didn't like there's no emotion. Dude, like total, total reptilian dude. Did you see the video?
Speaker 4:recently of the, the girl that's lipping everything. She's sitting behind exactly in the same spot, like she's sitting behind this lady in like Congress or something, and this politeness lady speaking and she is literally like got her eyes wide open and she's lipping everything that the lady is saying, like she's like memorized this speech. She has to say it this way and it's almost like she does it so well and in sync with when she's talking.
Speaker 3:She's been been been truly yes, exactly that's what it made it seem like you guys didn't see that video.
Speaker 4:That was recent. That was only a few months ago so Christian Christian is dope.
Speaker 2:23 left a comment. She says yeah, but there was a lot of footage of loud helicopters swirling the area and dust everywhere which. I don't, I don't doubt it, but what do you think about the helicopters being some sort of like diversion, to like what could be possibly really going on?
Speaker 4:okay, so I've ever bought a little bit of a bottle there too. So one of the testimonials the person saw with his girlfriend into the helicopter and they could see there was a curtain and behind the curtain there was muzzle flashes so that was this that was this where wait, they were.
Speaker 2:Where were they looking? What were they looking?
Speaker 4:at I don't remember what, where exactly they were. The guy believe they were looking between the Delano and Mandalay, like I was saying, or I believe that's the doctor they were looking at got you, so so shooting from the helicopter behind a curtain, behind a curtain and those flashes there was muzzle flashes and it's tough.
Speaker 3:I guess we're just assuming that it's muzzle flashes, because yeah, of course are they just up there taking pictures everybody.
Speaker 2:There's flashes and people are getting shot, right now I know that there were the gunfire when it was going on. I mean, it was more than just a 30 round magazine. I think there were a lot of high-powered magazine. I think they found high-powered magazines, oh man, high-capacity magazines. Oh yeah, you listen to the videos.
Speaker 4:It's like it's going on for a while like, yeah, I haven't, I have an AR, I've, I mean, a 30 round capacity regular magazine right, but that I mean the video is like you're looking at, like something belt-fed like a saw or something like that, like there's a saw, yeah, there's a lot.
Speaker 2:I've even seen videos to where they were showing the, the, the video of a saw shooting, yeah, and the sound very similar pairing that sound.
Speaker 4:Do you think about that, louis? The actual footage do you think that's accurate?
Speaker 3:between bump stocks and like fucking saw a saw rattling off, like I've shot both. Yeah, so it's hard to initially at least, it's difficult to get the rhythm of shooting a bump stop. It's not hard to get good at, but like unless you've practiced it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you have to practice it for sure. You can't just, you can't just pick it up and do it.
Speaker 3:You're not gonna get it right, not unless you have a lot of practice with it. I would say it's not a you're not taking accurate shots.
Speaker 4:Not reliable either right in that way, yeah right.
Speaker 3:So there's that. With the saw, like you can, a well-maintained one, you know it. It'll lay waste to what's in front of it right.
Speaker 4:How many rounds? Like the highest capacity, like what do you call it? A bucket? What holds? Is it considered a magazine? It's not right. What holds the all the right there? Belt fed and I can't remember they have little hundred round pouches but the standard is it is a 200 round box right, right, right, right, right, right, right right. That's a standard 200 rounds. Yeah, that that sounds more more like it two and round. Do you think this?
Speaker 2:do you think this story has a lot of similarities with, like, the JFK assassination, which is like as far as like yeah, angles? Affiliation yeah, the affiliation, you know, with the fall man and the government yep, I agree, I could see that I mean it looks like it came out of the same playbook, but the question is, though, at this point, what were they like?
Speaker 3:who are the people in the crowd they got killed? Was it anybody important? Was there something else that happened, event wise, that, like, did some log it passed that this distracted people from?
Speaker 4:they like you know, I mean yeah, angles was it a?
Speaker 3:was it a? Look over here while I yeah, smoke and marriage yeah you know, shove this dildo up you on.
Speaker 4:You know kind of deal right and that's like what was. That's the thing, it's like what I was saying earlier. You got all these big bankers like George Soros, these big industrialists, these guys, george Soros, in September of the same year. Was it just money then? You?
Speaker 4:think well, no, this is the thing. This is the thing that I'm like. Obviously they knew about it because of how they're moving their money. Memgm offered a one billion dollar buyback and I believe I can play the George Soros video to that one on so we'll cut over to this and we'll play this video.
Speaker 6:I was bought forty two million dollars worth of put options on MGM this video getting the stock for fall, and when he does, he'll make a killing.
Speaker 6:Because, hey, is it even really an evil conspiracy theory without George Soros somehow involved? Starting on September 10th in 2017, three cryptic messages from the same anonymous user pop up on Reddit for seeing an upcoming planned false flag event in Vegas. He warns people to stay away from large crowds because the government is working on something called a high incident project to make the American public think places with security aren't safe enough and create more regulations requiring metal detectors and casinos, etc. He specifically states OSI and the Shirtoff group will be involved, although he's not certain of the exact date, but that Vegas is on their mind. What's interesting is that Snoke scoffs that the messages is unproven, not because they couldn't prove they were false or true, but because they deemed it too vague to be taken seriously sounded pretty specific to me.
Speaker 6:If you don't know who Shirtoff is, he's Bush's former secretary of Homeland Security where, despite the major conflict of interest, he demanded agencies install certain security machines, which he just so happened to own the companies for. He's better known as a co-sponsor of the Patriot Act, where he used the tragedy of 9-11 to push through legislation that allowed the government to spy on Americans through our phones and computers without a warrant. If you're not familiar with Snowden, watch Citizen 4 for homework tonight and you'll quickly understand how the deep state is able to blackmail and control everyone into oblivion. It's also in September that MGM execs approve a billion dollar share repurchase program. Yet despite that push, by the end of the week Jim Murrin would divest himself of 80% of his own MGM stock. Did he foresee something drastic happening that would lower their worth? Aside from Mandalay Bay, mgm resorts also owns Luxor, bellagio, new York, new York, the Mirage and the MGM Grand. Keep those in mind for later when, despite overwhelming evidence, including 9-1-1 calls made by their own security, they all deny shootings occurred on their property.
Speaker 4:Holy shishkes, okay, is that?
Speaker 2:done. So that was a yeah. That's all done. That was a lot of information. Yeah, let me.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it was. It was. Let me just go into real quick. I watched the documentary a couple months ago. Blew me away. Super unknown documentary actually found it on Reddit too. I'm not ever on Reddit, but when I want to find something that's unknown or you know documentaries that aren't easy to find, anything that's not easy to find the internet, the easiest way to do it is just Google it and then put Reddit after your Google in your title.
Speaker 4:I found you know, I found a I found a documentary called everything is a rich man's trick. It's actually on YouTube. You can find it everything's a rich man's trick. It's a three hour documentary with a British man that is very knowledgeable and that's that's probably not the right accent, but he's like sitting on this typical like British, like chair and like in a suit and stuff and he's he's just got receipts on everything. But basically this documentary displays that it's proof that they're the big industrialists from America and around the world, mostly America. At this time we're playing both sides in World War one and World War two. So to answer your question, louie, it's, it is about the money, but it's also about the control and to keep the money and to keep the control. It's almost one in the same.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean right now I mean I don't put it past them, like some rich people just paying off whoever To do this but, but again, maybe, like you said earlier, maybe they're testing, that's just yeah, well, it's just as possible as a test and it like the, the government or skunk works or whatever it could be in conjunction right.
Speaker 2:Four birds together, four birds, one stone, six birds one stone, bird stone for it could be actually really I'm really curious of like who now, when Louis said something earlier, like who was at this concert?
Speaker 4:Oh, yeah, yeah, I didn't think about that you know what I'm saying. Yep like the Buffalo shooting in upstate New York in Tops, there was a man Robert, I believe his first name was Robert, he and he invented a generator and he had the whole thing penned and Generated pretty much ran off water hydrogen, I believe. It converted water to hydrogen Yep, so he was shot in that. Incidents like this is recent to that. Oh yeah the Buffalo shooting.
Speaker 3:Yeah we can't, we can't have people. Make free energy or engines and creating electricity off of easily attainable stuff.
Speaker 2:And it's kind of like the whole Malaysian air airline event like the whole Malaysian flight, going, disappearing out of nowhere.
Speaker 2:Well, there were people that were in. A lot of they they. First of all, there's a huge patent when it comes to microchips. For the people that were on that plan I forget their names and but they were in majority, they owned majority of the patent. And so what happened is is those people died and who slid right in behind them? Because who was right behind them in that Patent ownership was Russ child. Oh, whoop, boom, russ child scooped right in, scooped up the patent, and I think it has I forget what is it has to deal with microchips. Malaysia area. You know all that kind of stuff around, that whole kind of Is it Philippines, now Malaysia? Where's that?
Speaker 4:I think you're right in Asia.
Speaker 2:Indonesia, indonesia, something like that Meadow, persian bunch of islands.
Speaker 3:But it's kind of the same in the.
Speaker 2:Pacific. Yeah, it's kind of like the same situation, yeah, and they can get away with doing all this kind of stuff, especially if they own the FBI and oh yeah, they own the NSA and they they don't own, but they Definitely have heavy influence on all that stuff. That's why they're called the deep state. Right Like right. That's another.
Speaker 4:You know that's another thing that Christian brought up to me earlier like there's so many accounts of the FBI just framing people.
Speaker 3:There's so many, yeah this, actually this kind of because I believe that the FBI probably had something to do with this, or that the paddock was set up in a way Like it makes me think of the pulse nightclub shooting, oh I forgot about that in Orlando, you know yeah super tragic event.
Speaker 3:But the FBI had been in contact with this guy Twice in them in the month or two months prior and they, you know, obviously they didn't do anything because he hadn't broken any laws yet. But, like they, there are people who are suggesting that, like he, he got the weapons and he was influenced by his interactions with the FBI. And I mean how many times there's there's stories of pop-up all the time that, like, people that do stuff were either influenced by the FBI. Was that senator or congressperson or whoever? And Was it Idaho, ohio, michigan, somewhere? Remember she? Like there was a plot to kidnap her and everybody that was involved was like an FBI informant. Jeez, it's like five people that were involved and they were all FBI informants.
Speaker 2:God.
Speaker 4:Are you talking about what event? I'm sorry, what event were you talking about?
Speaker 3:There's that plot to kidnap. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yep, yep.
Speaker 4:And even with the January 6 shit, the reaps guy, like he was said to me oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he was also FBI informant.
Speaker 4:Yeah, there's multiple too. Yeah, there's, there's even no.
Speaker 2:Go ahead. Well, even when you go back to the whole member, the Colorado shooting in the movie theater. Oh, yeah fuck, that was how to be like. Was that it got to be like 12 years ago Was when the dark night came out. Yeah, the FBI knew about him. I mean the the valentine massacre shooting in Parkland Florida. The FBI was on to him. Yeah, they knew about the. They knew about the nefarious Thinking of these individuals.
Speaker 2:I would, I would assume because they, they have records of all this stuff that they were tracking these individuals, but they just don't do okay, so they didn't do anything.
Speaker 4:plot twist Right, you know, oh, I have something to say about that, Steven.
Speaker 3:But let's get here the plot plot twist.
Speaker 4:Yeah, the FBI is actually Covering their ass by telling you they were in contact, but it's more like MK ultra contact, where they were swindling these people into doing these events.
Speaker 2:Well, if you look into it, all these people, are on medications like they are on.
Speaker 4:They're all on Medications and what do they do in MP? Ultra, they did the same thing. They, they did the same thing. Dude and convince them. Oh yeah, whatever they want.
Speaker 2:Dude, what if it's like some sort of like alchemy to a certain point, to where, like, they can manipulate these people through Medications? A lot of the stuff goes back towards like sorcery and like ancient history and all that kind kind of gist.
Speaker 3:But like I Mean, if you get people in the right state of mind. Yeah, they're very susceptible to influence.
Speaker 4:We're going down this rabbit hole of the grant. You said alchemy and I thought of metals, and I thought of graphene oxide, and then I thought of the signal Just taking alchemy pertains to different things now, but it did.
Speaker 2:It's, yeah, the origins were like turning things in a gold right stuff, but yeah right.
Speaker 3:Well, when you say alchemy, I think full metal alchemist.
Speaker 4:Haha, yeah, yeah, guns also.
Speaker 3:There's guns in that right yes, but so the FBI, just the FBI, having contact with people and then like knowing that they're fucking weirdos or that they might have a tendency or propensity to do Do something nefarious, like there's nothing for the FBI to do, necessarily if they haven't broken any laws and I'm totally on board with that right like well, that's right, that's liberty, right in a way. Yeah, I'm allowed to be as fucking weird as I want and hate as many people as I want all day long until I break a law, leave me the fuck alone right
Speaker 2:right and that's a thing that they're using to unlike. Legislation is like oh well, we need more surveillance or we need this peace and security. Crowd for peace and well, well, I mean we have the Patriots act now. So I mean really that fourth amendment right is kind of out the window. So we're gonna monitor your Facebook, we're gonna monitor all this other type of stuff. But it's like Louis said, you know they can't like impede on your Facebook, on your freedoms yeah, I'm on this Facebook fucker, yeah so it's all kind of crazy.
Speaker 4:There's a because there's so many other events that are like similar yeah, similar, yeah, but the again I go back to it, like you saying like, and, and Christian said in the comments exactly the biggest shooting in our history and they brushed it on the rug like. What makes this one so different? I think it's because there's.
Speaker 2:I think it's because I yeah, but I think it also it's because of years and years and years of conditioning bro, but you have to understand like true, like TWA or TWA flight 800, like that crap happened 20 years ago now and they were doing the same thing. But they just do these little tiny things to where government cover right government cover up. Government cover up 20 years ago it had to been 20 years ago. Now, dude, had to be 20 years ago. I think it happened in night or wait flight 800, is that?
Speaker 2:the one that were maybe 1990, late, late 90s, I think late 90s everything just froze. Can you guys hear me? Could be wrong, but I'm definitely gonna look that up now. But my whole point is, dude is like I think what they're really good at now, what the CIA is really good at right, mockingbird right, especially this. This pertains a lot to the media, a lot to the media, mockingbird medium.
Speaker 2:Yeah, explain, mockingbird so mockingbird is where the CIA, you know, basically not took, didn't take over, but they put themselves into the position of the media sources to where they can manipulate propaganda and have the freedom to use their intelligence in any way, shape or form that they wanted to. And the media is a huge thing because that now we're, like the media is, is super big into manipulating people's behavior, all it is is like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like that in the early 1900s. I'll look up his name. But there was a guy who did I take notes on my phone like non-stop to you, because I have a terrible memory, that's the best way to do it. But there's a guy who in the early 1900s he, he, he came up with this study. So the guy's name is Ivan Pavlov.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, the study that he came up with them and all that well, not only that, but it was the bell and the food for the dogs, so he was able to condition the dogs to. Every time he rang the bell he was feeding the dogs, and the dogs thought that whenever the bell rang that they were getting fed, and so he controlled their behavior in that, in that fashion, to where I mean even even when the dogs wouldn't eat for eight to ten to twelve hours, they were still salivating and waiting there yeah because they heard the bell once yeah, like their.
Speaker 2:Their behavior was completely controlled. Super interesting study. We should talk about that a lot further because it's huge Pavlovian response right. But yeah, it's just the conditioning process, man, to where people aren't gonna ask. I think the purpose of it right, the whole purpose of conditioning people be like, well, what's the what's the point? It's the point is to not have people ask questions or fight back. And to people, right, and to people just listen and go oh, we're fed right, I'm good, that's it right, because you know they're there.
Speaker 4:Talk about conditioning a little bit. Let's talk about that a little bit because this is huge and it's so relevant. Look at. So what do you think the way is conditioning event that just happened recently is, and why?
Speaker 3:shoot geez there's so much going on the biggest conditioning, it's the lockdowns yes yeah, sorry man not only the mass but definitely the mass.
Speaker 4:The mass were a big part of it, but not only that. I mean, there's so much in intricacy that goes into the lockdowns like that, six feet apart, and then you can't. You can't go in the hospital to see your loved one. It's so I think.
Speaker 3:I think there's so alone because of the stupid fucking rule yeah and they're so conditioned.
Speaker 2:Now to when it does happen again.
Speaker 4:Bam, bam, bam bam roll over, gonna fall in line with the dog oh, I know how to.
Speaker 2:I know what to do now. I I know where to buy my masks. I know I know how to wear them properly now.
Speaker 4:Kevin Hart's good.
Speaker 2:I'm ready for another pandemic that Bill Gates says that is gonna happen.
Speaker 4:This one will be worse, damn it he did, he did and then he just recently released fucking mosquitoes with malaria into the. Not only poor people don't have to die, rich people can die too. And he releases mosquitoes into the fucking crowd and everybody laughs. You stupid fucks, bunch of fucking idiots. Conditioning just like you said. It's just like haha, it's a joke, yeah.
Speaker 2:I think the funniest thing was watching him on a TED talk and he was like, yeah, the one way we can reduce population by 70%. He said, yeah, in the next 12 years, like 15 years. He said that's a lot of people, bro, that's a lot of people dude in 10 years, yeah, okay, a lot of people.
Speaker 3:He goes in 100 years.
Speaker 2:That's a lot of people he goes health care mm-hmm, which was the third leading cause of death in the United States. Which is medicine, mm-hmm health care, he said reproductive health yep, you know eugenics eugenics, and then he said vaccines. So those three things, this guy this guy is fulfilling his great grandfather's fucking agenda. Dude, that's all he's doing.
Speaker 2:Yep, he's able to do it, the eugenics line yep, I'm telling you, man, and he doesn't just do it because he's willing to help children in Africa and all this kind of stuff and all these low-income populations and these.
Speaker 3:I'm glad you go the. I mean, we're way the fuck off topic right now.
Speaker 4:Well, this is the beautiful thing about being off topic or something like this is because it all ties together and when you really truly open your mind, you end up going down the rabbit hole and realizing that it's all tied together. There really is right for sure?
Speaker 1:so well, let's wheel this back in, clip it clip it, you clip it, you clip it you're the producer.
Speaker 3:Jamie Christian have Christian do fuck you.
Speaker 4:Christian does a better job than me and everything yeah.
Speaker 2:Christians awesome so what? Are we thinking? Do we think that I guess we can come down? I think we really laid out the entire footwork of this whole thing.
Speaker 3:I mean, I don't think there's really much anything left, but I guess we, we got to tie it all, put a little bow on it. I mean, I guess we're not like we haven't really solved anything.
Speaker 4:We've neither talk about a bunch she neither does the girl in the documentary. And that's the thing it's like it's. It's not solvable, because it was a big operation swept under the rug and they gave you the one narrative that it's a solo operation and both case closed, we're done, we're out of here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I think it's sad, because people do deserve more than that. Oh, they do. You know, and that's not fair, that these people that can play this monopoly game, because they own the board game, they could do whatever they want.
Speaker 3:They are the bank, it's just, yep, it's so then I guess we're, are we all in agreeance that this was, this was an operation. I guess we just have to decide like, alright, stevie, do you think it was a government operation, a money operation? Do you think it was a test? Do you think it was just a distraction or all of a personally think?
Speaker 2:I think it all, I think all those things are correct, right, but I what I really think like, like, from the spirit of all of this, is like it was some sort of opportunity to where the government can test certain new technology. They could use a fall guy that they, that they knew, that you know was manipulated through medications and all these other things, and that his legs is really going yeah his life wasn't going up, it was going down, if anything.
Speaker 4:And so nobody liked him, you know he could have.
Speaker 2:He could have even been a part of this whole thing, to where he was like sure, yeah, I'll be a part of it for a money scandal, and they just kind of framed him at the end and then he's just, oh my gosh, dude, they said they were gonna come get me.
Speaker 3:Boom, you know that's another thing about itself out, or there could have been someone else in the room with him that they shot him in the fucking hay.
Speaker 2:Yes, took the hard drive and yes well that now that's where you get the two rooms and the two angles right, because there were people that said that there were gunshots coming from those two rooms simultaneously. There are reports of that and I think that is possible. You know that it was kind of like in the movie shooter, right the. You know, mark Wahlberg is there and he's like they're gonna get him now, they're gonna shoot him. Now they're gonna shoot him because he's there, you know, trying to prevent no assassination from taking place, but he got framed right in the middle of it and when he turned around.
Speaker 2:It was that police officer that shot him right in the right in the chest. It's kind of like they kind of put these optics in front of you, hollywood to kind of play with your fiction, nonfiction, part of your subconscious so that, like when real things do take place, there's just you.
Speaker 4:Just like the sense of sort of conditioning of yes, yes, sensitize to it, all this kind of stuff.
Speaker 2:But I do think that it was more than just Steven Craig Paddock that night, 100%. I think there's a lot of eyewitness testimony that is alternative to the official story and I think that there's a lot of questions that were swept under the rug, just kind of like how TWA 800 like they even they didn't even ask witnesses to come to that hearing for that particular event so explain that, because I don't remember that.
Speaker 4:What? What is TWA it?
Speaker 2:was a plane.
Speaker 2:It was a plane that that was believed to be shot down by missiles right missiles, multiple missiles, ground to air missiles, stingers and that that they shot this plane down. But the CIA came out with a, with a graphic representation, a graphic art representation, that it was the fuselage that exploded. We should do a show on. This is really good and I'm very educated in this. I watch it ten times. And so that they said that the the explode, that the explosion came from the fuselage and that that it exploded and that the head of the airplane fell off and that, and that the airplane continued to ascend in the air for hundreds and hundreds of feet with no nose on it, and they said that the missiles that they saw were the plane going upward into the sky.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, this was super, super interesting stuff.
Speaker 2:I'll get back on top, okay, okay, yeah, so I think that that there could have been possibly someone in the concert that they needed to take out, or it could have been some sort of of political bias you know event to where it was, you know a part of the government, but they, they did it to get back at the people who you know, like the Second Amendment, and that probably most of the crowd were, you know, of the right or Republicans. You know what I'm saying. So so they kind of like kissed them with the same kiss them with that poison in a way, to where it could have been political nature. You know, in spirit, wise, you know what I'm saying, if you understand what I'm saying. But that's kind of my gist on it. I do think there's a bunch of different outcomes, okay, to this whole story should I give mine or Louie?
Speaker 4:yeah?
Speaker 4:yeah, go ahead but because of the reddit post, because of that like anonymous reddit post saying in early October, steer clear the strip, the government is planning an operation. Because of that and because of George Soros, it my gut tells me that it is kind of the all of the above situation that they are maybe testing new weapons and they're testing how to use those weapons scenarios. This is a one big test and at the same time, just like insider trading, george Soros and other people that are on the end can capitalize on that and make their money.
Speaker 2:Make money, yeah so this was a no similar to how, like the trade center towers and the guy who owned an insurance scheme and then the. Titanic right insurance scheme like all the same insurance company. By the way, my ideas.
Speaker 4:Same insurance company owned the Titanic, the Lyndon Hindenburg, the twin towers. There's a couple, few more, but regardless, yes, I, I'm totally on board. That, it's all of the above. I think Steven Paddock and what. Just looking at him in his picture, he looks like a fucking slime ball. So I'm good with faces. This is what I do. I'm good with faces. I'm really a person, I'm a personable guy. I. I think the guy is a slime ball, so I think he might have been part of part of it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I think, like Louis said, I think, yeah, maybe they were like, hey, we'll do this for you if you do this, and he's like, fuck it, let's go, let's do it. And then, yeah, he ended up. I don't think he killed himself because he landed on top of his gun, so and like it was like under his foot. It looked like he was placed there and there was like he's placed it apart where there was dry blood on the carpet and has there was fresh blood next to it. It's just a whole debauchery. But yeah, I mean, I think we're all in the same deal. What do you think, louis?
Speaker 3:just so, I'd watched a I guess a podcast, a podcaster talk about this years ago and that's always had me on the that it was a drone test theory, like free for years, right, and I think that, based on what you guys covered tonight and some of the other discussions we had a little bit earlier today, I can't the oh, excuse me, sorry, right then, like I can't stop thinking that it was just. It was not just about money, but like an opportunity for multiple people to get what they want. Right, like someone like George Soros. He made this, he knew something that this company needed to do, some testing. And they're like, well, we might do it over here, might do this. And he's like, well, I just, if we short this place, then we can, I can make a shit ton of money on this, and then I'll say what it is towards you, to to fund your project, and maybe you can sell me one of these drones.
Speaker 3:By the way, this asshole over here who won't sell me his patent on whatever is gonna be in the crowd tonight, oh damn he just started some brand new thing or whatever he. I saw his video on YouTube and I've been trying to get him to sell me his stuff.
Speaker 2:He won't do it and I can fuck this guy especially wow, yeah, and I think too, on top of that, I think it was supposed to have a different culture shock then. Then it did. I think it reversed on them to where they were, like our cover-ups were not that good.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we need to slide this three didn't play in this very well, yeah.
Speaker 2:I think it was supposed to have a different political outcome also right because there's that side that has to get their cheese, you know cheese.
Speaker 4:That's exactly going back to my point and the documentaries point is that the reason why they swept this biggest massacre, shooting massacre in the United States history they swept it under the rug is because there's too many holes. There was too many holes, so they did everything they could to scrub the internet. They did everything they could to just get the media to stop talking about it. And it is what I mean.
Speaker 2:That it's, it's totally obvious, it really is agreed oh, yeah, yeah well, it's a good show, man, I had a lot of fun. This was a. We had a lot of great ideas. Again, this is like a revolving door with this kind of shit right never ends yeah, because there's so we know so many other events that took place that have a lot of similarities with it and we kind of would just start merging and creating this fucking robot out of this whole conspiracy stuff, right of different pieces of Voltron conspiracy we got an email.
Speaker 4:I think we got an email the other day from the FBI, so that's interesting to you know so nice, nice.
Speaker 2:I'm glad I'm still alive, that's good but, yeah, yeah, for sure me too.
Speaker 4:I gotta say that I guess me too.
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