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Episode 20: Piercing the Veil of the Titanic's Legacy
Get ready to have your perception of the Titanic tragedy radically transformed. We promise you a hair-raising journey into the depths of unknown facts and theories about the ill-fated liner that never made headlines. Grapple with the shocking revelations about the ship's inadequate lifeboats, the controversial actions of its owner and captain, and the possibility that the iceberg wasn't the sole perpetrator of the disaster.
What if the Titanic's story was marred by conspiracy? Hold on tight as we venture into the web of theories surrounding the ship's sinking. Explore the shadowy implications surrounding the passengers on board, their connection with the Federal Reserve, and the whispers of a clandestine banking war. Will you dare to question the assertion that it was actually the Olympic that sunk on that fateful night?
We're not just scratching the surface; we're plunging headfirst into the undercurrents beneath the Titanic's narrative. We scrutinize the iceberg theory, delve into the political ramifications of the tragedy, and ask the pressing questions about the influence of the sinking on the Federal Reserve. Prepare to have your beliefs challenged, your curiosity piqued, and your understanding of this historic catastrophe completely revolutionized.
Enjoy the trip down the rabbit hole with us.
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Speaker 2:It's Jesse, what's going on?
Speaker 1:And I'm Louie. Thank you for joining us tonight. Tonight is going to be episode 20.3, v3. However you want to take it, tonight we're talking a little bit about the Titanic. For those of you who aren't familiar, it was a flagship, giant ship. Cruise liner sank off the coast of North America many moons ago and tonight we're going to discuss what happened and then we're going to discuss what actually happened.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we got a bunch of different little theories here, for sure, little itty bitty theories. It can't just be what the newspaper said back in the day. You know what I'm saying Never, never, never.
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Speaker 3:Oh yeah, stevie, all right, so we're going to get into it. For those that don't really have any understanding what the Titanic is, it was one of the most catastric catastrophic. Catastrophic, oh holy, go back to school.
Speaker 2:I should have let you start a little more.
Speaker 3:It was a huge disaster, one of the biggest ones we've had in the entire world when it has to deal with a passenger cruise line or a boat. But the Titanic, which it's known for the deadliest sinking ship of all time, the RMS Titanic was known for its advanced innovation and its luxurious structure and awesome architecture. It was kind of like one of the pieces of its time and it was. I think it was British. It was a British passenger liner which was operated by a huge company in the world at a time called the White Star Line or liner or whatever, and this ship ultimately met its demise in the North Atlantic Sea and this took place.
Speaker 3:Its actual sinking, full sinking, took place on April 15th 1912. But it started its sinking at around 1130 or 1140 on the 14th and it kind of just sank throughout midnight. And the official story is that this Titanic was moving. Not only was it moving at full speed, but it struck an iceberg and made impact on the front part of the ship, which is known as the bow, and it took about two hours and 30 minutes or so to fully sink. So that's kind of fast. I mean it's slow but it's fast.
Speaker 1:And imagine how many more people would have died had that sucker just like whoop.
Speaker 3:And so to kind of get into the mood of tonight's episode, me and my family, we ate dinner, we watched the Titanic and it's like when we were watching the movie everyone was kind of like, as the boat is sinking, everyone's kind of staying calm and chill. And then you had your group of people that were like no, do this. It's not time to chill. This isn't time to play a violin and be okay. There's only fucking 20 lifeboats. It only fits a third of the passengers that were on the ship.
Speaker 3:I mean the boat wasn't at full capacity. The boat had got it right here. So the boat held 2,224 souls on board that night and there was 1,500 passengers that ended up dying. And the interesting thing about this incident is that they were supposed to have 48 lifeboats on the ship and they decided not to meet that amount of or that full capacity because there was a lot of things that this shit met and a lot of that was like maritime sea regulations and stuff like that, and so they didn't have 48 lifeboats that night, they only had 20.
Speaker 2:And let me add to this real quick I forgot the guy's name, like Andrew Newton or something. He studied this whole event and he was saying that at first they were sending people on these lifeboats like half capacity. The lifeboats weren't even fully full themselves. It seemed like they were expecting someone to come and save them.
Speaker 3:Right and they did a bunch of numbers and everything after they got all the analytics from the incident and it was an average of 60% where each lifeboat was at capacity, so just a little bit over than half, which is kind of crazy, you know.
Speaker 1:Well, you don't want your legs to be cramped while being rescued. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Right. So but the ship you know said it's made in voyage from Southampton, england, new York City and the United States. And this boat, you know, just to kind of give you an idea of the clientele that was on there, it wasn't, you know, your normal average Carnival cruise type people. You know what I'm saying. Like there were tears to this boat, I believe they were. I believe they were kind of segmented into like classes. So there's yet first class, second class, third class, and first class obviously were like your world elites, your very wealthy, most powerful people, and you know second class was just a grade under that and third class was, you know, for the most part immigrants at that time.
Speaker 3:And so watching the Titanic today put so much in perspective, kind of and I know it's just a movie, I know Hollywood made it and everything but the little things that they put in that movie kind of blew me away because it has a lot to do with the theories that we're going to talk about tonight. But you know, like you had super rich people on there, you know people like the Aster, jacob Aster. You had other people who were super into politics. You had Benjamin Gunge in him, I think Gunge in him or something like that. You had Isidore Strauss.
Speaker 3:You basically had a lot of people a lot of people, but a lot of people that were like mostly powerful in Europe at that time and like we knew. We know that Europe at that time had a huge grip around the world. I would say that maybe they were one of the strongest empires right Going on at that time. And I found it interesting that the first build of the look of this ship was the Olympic, and the Olympic it's all based off of Greek mythology. These names so Olympics are the that was the class of ship.
Speaker 3:Yes, so it was the best of the best, right. The Olympic was the top notch ship and the Titanic was a sister ship. It was copied, most of it was copied, replicated after the Olympic. And the funny thing is that, what do you call it in Greek mythology? You might be able to help me Eluwe or Jesse. What are they? Primordial gods or something? There's the Demigods. No, there's levels.
Speaker 1:So the Titans came before the Olympians.
Speaker 3:So I thought it was the other way around. I thought the Olympian.
Speaker 1:No, oh, okay, the Olympians were the Greek pantheon of gods that we know, of the Zeus and Hera and those, so Titans were before them, and they were much larger right. And technically like Zeus, Poseidon and Was it Hades?
Speaker 3:It was a Hades.
Speaker 1:What was their brother? Zeus, poseidon, and there's one more. The three of them were technically Titans as well, but they defeated their father, chronos. And that's how they became the rulers. Anyway, rabbit hole.
Speaker 3:You see, yeah, but so a lot of the naming was back and it relates to the Greek mythology, and so, anyways, we'll go back to the ship and everything like that. So on April 14th 1140, the ship was moving at high speeds and a lot of witnesses said that it was at full speed and that it collided into an iceberg. There's different theories of to what the people thought they saw. Some people even said that they didn't necessarily see an iceberg.
Speaker 3:There's a thing that's called low level pack ice, which is, like, I think, something that most of the time ice breakers would go through. But a lot of the witnesses were talking about that. They kind of saw Hades out in the distance, but you can easily compare that to low level ice packing. It could look like a haze in the distance, but so they struck the iceberg at 1140 pm and, like I said earlier, it took two hours and 40 minutes to sink. There were only 20 lifeboats on board and there were 16 lifeboat davits I think that's what you call it which is, like you know what allows you to lower the lifeboats down in the water.
Speaker 1:And these davits were.
Speaker 3:they had the capability of lowering three boats in each davit and you do 16 times three and I believe that gives you 48. And so they only had 20 on board that night. Kind of sketch. If you wanted to sink a boat, I could see that. Or if you wanted to kill people on the boat specifically and cover it up as a disaster, you know I could.
Speaker 1:Then it's just negligence.
Speaker 3:Yeah, exactly Right, but what's, what's his name? The guy that, the guys that made the boat, the designers of the boat, they said that, which they ended up dying on the boat that night too. They said that they did not have the 48 lifeboats on the boats so that they can open up the walk walkways. I forget, you know what the actual term is, but it would open up and make it look, look, look, much more presentable, much more luxurious. You know it wouldn't just be like small walkways on the outsides of the boat, so that kind of sounds bullshit to me. I don't know.
Speaker 3:And it was all pretty big rules because the, the, the guy that designed the boat, you know, he, he, he, he wasn't for it, he, he did not advocate for not having the proper amount of lifeboats on there and he was overruled. Now, the, the, the company that constructed this boat, white Star Line. This goes all the way back to, you know, when you, when you go through the trail, it goes back to JP Morgan, and JP Morgan was kind of, in a way, the owner of the boat at itself. He was, he was super involved in, you know, this company and one of the richest men in the world at that time. And the captain of the boat was Edward Smith, who had a lot of experience and the.
Speaker 3:The thing that I found interesting about the lifeboat situation is that the I got to get my phone here, get my calculator. So the max capacity for the boat, or just, you know, full capacity of the boat, was 3,534 people. Okay, so the boat was not at full capacity when it was set sail in a way, and you know there was only 2,224 souls on board. When you take 3,534, right, it's full capacity, and you divide that by three, right, and we all know one third gives you 33, right, it gives you the exact number of what the capacity would would be of having 20 lifeboats on the boat. So 20 lifeboats were supposed to hold 1,178 people. That's exactly one third of the full capacity of the boat, and if you're set in sail, I mean. They even called this ship, you know, like the unsingable ship, the ship that you know, the iron something or whatever, but it's motto was to never be able to sink, and I just found that interesting.
Speaker 2:It is interesting.
Speaker 3:And the like I said. Jp Morgan, you know one of the richest men at that time in the world. He was supposed to be on the boat that day and did not go on that on that day he didn't. He, he last minute withdrawed from supposed to be to be on the boat. And so did so did a whole lot of other people.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:It's kind of like I forget the guy's name and and I'm not making any claims here, but this is just 100% fact is that the, the man who owns the, the world trade centers, you know, showed up to work or showed up, you know, to breakfast in the world trade centers every day. And the day of 9 11, he did not show up and you know, can I just say that the the same.
Speaker 2:And I met up, I met a guy I worked for a guy that was the CEO of this insurance company. He was the CEO of the same insurance company that insured the Hindenburg, the world trade centers, the Titanic, like a lot of these. It's all the same insurance company. So that, as a very another, very just boggling Damn. Yeah, you'll have to. You'll have to look up and fact check me on that one real quick.
Speaker 1:But I wonder how much they got paid to make payouts, if you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Well, the, the, the Titanic, and back then that during this time was there's a lot of fraud, they got away with a lot of stuff, and I said that the, the Titanic was overly insured, everything was overly insured. And so, like I said, you'll have to fact check me on that. What, what company, what company it was. If that's true and that's you know, that's mind mind bottling.
Speaker 3:So the cost of the boat was also $1.5 million back in that day and the the builder who constructed it was I finally found his name here in my scratch notes Hardland and Wolf Belfast. So these guys were the creators and designers of the architects behind the construction of the ship, and I believe one of the one of the Belfast guys went down with the ship. I'm pretty sure about that.
Speaker 2:Oh, one of our one of our people says they were actually on the the chat here. Mark says I was actually on the Titanic Fact. Check me on that Interesting.
Speaker 3:So what do you guys think happened that night? Do you think the official story is that, you know, the Titanic actually struck an iceberg that night? Or do you think this was a huge, you know, fabricated, constructed assassination of certain people that were on this boat? Or do you think that?
Speaker 2:you know what other theories what makes you so? What makes you think it was like? Be specific, what makes you think it was an assassination? Who died and and why do you think it was an assassination?
Speaker 3:I think that the people on board had a lot of significant meaning, especially, you know, in politics, in, you know, certain policies that were starting to get developed around the world, and especially for the United States. I think that that this was a setup to, in a way not necessarily, how do I say this? So, so, at that time, Jacob Astor, who's a part of one of the greatest elite families of all time, if not, at that time, one of the wealthiest families had a huge impact around the world. He owned basically, you know, over 40, he basically owned over 40% of the debt that the banks, you know, accumulated. So so he owned over 40% of, basically, interest that was coming in. And you know, at that time, I thought he wasn't well liked.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he wasn't well liked and I think I don't know if he was a good guy, though I don't know if he was a bad guy.
Speaker 2:My thing with him doesn't sound like a good guy.
Speaker 3:Well, the thing is, is I compare it I don't know anything about this, this guy per, you know, I don't know really, but but it's kind of like, you know, princess Diana being a part of what we think of an evil family or an elite family, part of you know, people running the world which you know, that's kind of true. She necessarily had different views and political views and she kind of was like an opposition, you know to to the agenda of where the family kind of maybe wanted to go. I can kind of relate. You know, jacob asked her to maybe falling into the same shoes, and I say this because you know, at that time they there was a lot of talk about getting a central bank in the United States and that central bank is what we know as today as the Federal Reserve, and so there was a lot of discussion 1911, 1912, about about getting the Federal Reserve to be a part of the United States of America Corporation and to get it, you know, to let it be, you know, a central bank in America.
Speaker 3:And what I found funny is that, especially watching the movie that Titanic right, there's a scene in the movie where Leonardo DiCaprio is taking Rose right, and everyone, if you see in the movie, you definitely get where I'm getting at. He, rose invites him to go to an elite ball, right, so the first class ball, pretty much. And so when, when they're walking around the ball and Rose is introducing Leonardo DiCaprio to a bunch of you know, different elites, she goes oh, here's Jacob Astor, one of the richest men in the entire world, right, is that that's?
Speaker 2:in the movie.
Speaker 3:It's in the movie I never even noticed this movie and I was like oh my gosh mom, holy shit. Yes, I live with my mother, Listen.
Speaker 2:Yes, I love that. I love how you emphasize that every episode.
Speaker 3:Now I know, I live with my mother, so. So I was like, oh, okay, very interesting. And then that's why I started paying attention to that scene and I was like, okay, and this is how I'm thinking too. I'm like Okay, who are they going to walk up to and and introduce and to have them be a part of the movie? This is kind of like so so bleminal in a way, you know.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 3:And so, what do you know? They went by and they Rose brings Leonardo DiCaprio up to another guy and says this is Benjamin Gunjanheim, this is another guy who was opposed to the.
Speaker 1:Federal.
Speaker 3:Reserve Guggenheim. This is another guy, Guggenheim.
Speaker 3:This is another guy that that was opposed to the Federal Reserve along with Astor. And you know, there was another guy is a door, strauss, who was also opposed to the Federal Reserve. And the people that weren't on the ship, the people that decided not to go, the Rockefellers, the Rothschilds, you know, the JP Morgan, the other people that were in competition with Astor, they didn't, they weren't on there that day. That's kind of weird. It's a hell of a coincidence. And you know, maybe they were rivals, maybe they didn't like each other, you know, maybe they knew that, maybe they wanted Astor's money, you know, maybe they wanted his assets, maybe they wanted his wealth, and so the only way to do that without starting an entire war probably, you know, because these guys could have probably shot Astor in the back of the head Okay, he drops his 40%, you know of the capacity, and then they will naturally inherit it.
Speaker 3:So why don't we just, you know, decide to cover it up with the sinking of a beautiful ship?
Speaker 2:And they're still going to have to shoot him in the back of the head, though you know, like this ship, the ship is sinking and, if your theory is true, there was the assassins on board and they were killing people.
Speaker 3:I mean, I wouldn't have been doubted.
Speaker 2:People don't just drown, you know. You know, if you're going to plan to assassinate somebody by sinking a big ass ship, you better have people on board to kill them. And then you know, of course, blame it on the sinking ship, I mean there's other theories, but that's pretty good.
Speaker 1:I mean, there's reports that his pregnant wife did make it onto a liferaft and I can't imagine that she wouldn't have gotten on right away without him being like get on this fucking ship or get off this ship.
Speaker 2:Honestly, yeah, yeah, I think that would be the case if there was, if they were doing that. It reminds me of the Lincoln assassination, because there was tons of assassins involved, or that, too, that people don't know about.
Speaker 1:Potentially he did get assassinated. She knew he was dead and she's like, well, he's fucking dead, so I better get off this ship right now. Yeah, right, jeez, because Guggenheim and his wife both died, pretty sure.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, oh yeah, I can see that I agree with that.
Speaker 3:Creepy. So, and when we so you know, ok, the ship goes down, all these men die. The following year 1913, we had the Um, what was it? What is it? The Federal Reserve Act, or we basically had the passing of the Federal Reserve banking system in the United States, and this took place on Jekyll Island, which is a small island off the coast of Georgia, and it was hosted at the Rothschild's home, and, I'm sorry, not the Rothschild's, the Rockefeller's home, and so, if you can, yeah, december 20, december 23rd 1913. Right right.
Speaker 2:So, and then the ship sank 1912. 1912, yes, wow, yeah, ok.
Speaker 3:So what you had is you had a what we kind of call nowadays like the greatest transfer of wealth you know overnight and like during COVID, yeah, kind of, and you had yeah.
Speaker 3:And you know you had all these other, these other, you know bankers starting to incorporate, you know, and inherit basically all the assets that you know Aster had. I mean, someone's got to take them right, someone's got to take them over. And so you had people like JPMorgan, you had Henry Davison, frank Vanderlip, you know Paul Warburg, the Rothschild's, the Rockefellers, and all these people would got together and you know they made this, this, this, this decision, and this, this policy, you know, on this on this island. And the crazy thing is too, is that the Rockefeller's home on Jekyll Island is built on top of an ancient Tamuka tribe sacrificial temple, which is kind of gnarly. I don't know to think of it, but it seems pretty evil to me. And, and you know there's there was a lot of people wondering, you know, like, why didn't you just kind of dig it up? Or why did, why would, why would, why don't you just place your house over here?
Speaker 1:Huh, no no, Is that how it? But we're going to.
Speaker 2:We're going to build it right on top of where the actual temple was Um there's a lot of people that do that right, like that, there's a lot of organizations and and organizations that have built on top of shit like that, right Like the Vatican, and oh, I'm sure there's a lot of um.
Speaker 3:You know things like that Um. I don't know exactly other examples, but you know, I wouldn't, I wouldn't doubt it. To me it kind of is like an essence of like maybe it gives them energy or like it gives them some sort of like honor or something like that. I don't, I don't know Cause I personally believe that you know these elites, that they're not really all for you know all the good things, necessarily, um, and it's of course they're greed, they're greedy, you know it's like watching the Titanic movie.
Speaker 3:You could see how like we are really peasants to these freaking people, bro, like we literally are the gum on the bottom of their fucking shoes. Dude like I, I wouldn't doubt it, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 2:In reality, like I look at a lot of you know wealthy people and I I think I was talking to you about this the other day these people, they just rely so much on their money to take care of them and it's like to me you're beneath my feet. If you're just solely relying on everybody to do everything for you, you're using your money, you're throwing your money around, you know what. I mean I'm getting that kind of off topic with that, but yeah, anyways, rich people, they're greedy, yeah.
Speaker 3:So there's other theories, um other than you know which I'm, I, I'm, I'm five bananas here on. You know this theory in particular, um, so you're not really sold.
Speaker 2:No, I well, you should explain the bananas real quick, I get confused with the bananas.
Speaker 3:Basically, I'm all in on this.
Speaker 2:It's easy to ease, oh no. So five bananas would be like too much. So it's like is it easy to swallow?
Speaker 3:Okay, that's right, that's right. So if it's easy for you to swallow five bananas, five bananas, brother, if it's easy for you to swallow five bananas, you need to come out of the closet right now, yeah, just come clean.
Speaker 2:You need to come clean. You need to come clean right now, bro.
Speaker 1:It's two bananas as in TOO. Yeah, too many bananas.
Speaker 2:Too many bananas, right, yeah, so it'd be like half a banana, would be like, yeah, you're like, okay, that's easy to eat a half a banana.
Speaker 3:But I didn't think, I didn't think of it, I didn't think of the assassination kind of theory with this which is I'm kind of it's leading.
Speaker 2:Really, you never thought of?
Speaker 3:that I mean.
Speaker 2:yeah, you know you're just expecting them to just die in the water.
Speaker 3:No, I mean well, because it made me think of you know, the first people that got on the boats were women and children primarily, which and I'm like how the hell wouldn't the richest guy in the world just jump on one of these boats and take all these elites off, you know, or whatever?
Speaker 2:But Right, they weren't suspecting it. And that's where your theory does make sense. But at the same time, you can't just expect. So you know the, you know the part, or the theory about all the boats that were surrounding them.
Speaker 3:Is this about, like no, no the Californian.
Speaker 2:So the Cal. There's a boat that was like 19 miles away, the Californian, and the theory is that this was all set up and it's actually. It wasn't the Titanic, it was actually the Olympic, right. Am I saying that right? The Olympic or?
Speaker 3:the Olympic? Yeah, that's the simp, it's okay.
Speaker 2:So the sister boats, the Olympic.
Speaker 2:So the theory is that it was actually the Olympic and that this is the insurance deal.
Speaker 2:So the Olympic was hit by a military boat in the side, a smaller military boat, and it damaged the hall, it damaged the propeller, damaged a lot, of, a lot of things, and they, they, the Titanic wasn't ready yet, I believe, and the Olympic had already been built and that was ready to go, so, but it was damaged. So what they did was they did a little quick patch repair and they sent it out and they sank that shit for insurance money, right, that's like that theory. But there was and and this is the reason why, like all the boats make sense that they were only sending people out in 60% capacity on the lifeboats because they were expecting the Californian. The Californian was on standby, ready to come pick them up, but they didn't get any of the signals because they were positioned improperly, they were in the wrong position and there was actually three other boats that were closer around them, but they were all. So the Titanic, when it was sinking, was shooting up to stress signals, fireworks pretty much right.
Speaker 3:Well, specifically white flares, right.
Speaker 2:I think white, red and blue flares, but I think white flares is just like you'd have to look it up what it means white, red and blue. But there was other boats around them that were seeing the flares but they couldn't make out. So the California was on the side and they were only seeing white flares from a boat and the theory is that that those flares that they were actually seeing from that boat was a legal fisherman that was illegally fishing so, and that boat was actually close enough to the Titanic to where they could see the Titanic's flares, but they weren't going to go help them. And then this is all on logs Like this is all written down so they know that the illegal fisherman was looking at the Titanic going. I'm not going to go over there and check that out. I'm illegally fishing right now.
Speaker 2:So yeah, it's interesting, I could believe that that makes more sense to me about it being the Olympic, because it is documented. It did get hit and there's pictures before the Titanic took off that there's 16 portholes in the boat that was taking off and there was only 14 portholes in the Titanic and Olympic had 16. So there's all this and it was remodeled before it took off. It makes a lot more sense and at the same time it's like two, three birds with one stone. You kill your adversaries, you get your money back on your damaged boat that you didn't want to pay to fix properly because it took too long. You're getting all this in one. Jp Morgan's an evil son of a bitch.
Speaker 3:Well, he ended up moving. After this. I think he ended up developing General Electric and all these.
Speaker 2:Oh, while he developed, that after this he's a huge part of the reason why General Electric. Oh, that's right of rape and stealing Nikola Tesla shit.
Speaker 3:What's funny is like you think of the.
Speaker 2:Federal Reserve.
Speaker 3:Tesla for a lot of it.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, oh, I'm sure, yeah, and then I'm pretty sure he probably had him killed at the end of his life too. And then, the FBI came in. His uncle came in and took all his fucking Nikola Tesla's paperwork. That's an interesting story too, yeah.
Speaker 3:So I think the white flares like the distress. When you're talking about the flares, I think white flares means to draw attention and I think red means that you're in distress and that you need people to come to your safety.
Speaker 2:And what's blue mean? So blue means something too, because they were doing all of them. This is the reports they were doing, all red, white and blue.
Speaker 1:They thought they were having a party. Yeah right, yeah, they were probably like oh they're just you know, they're over there drinking, you know shooting off fireworks, shooting off fireworks, jumping off the side of the boat, having fun.
Speaker 3:But so you get the sinking of the Titanic, you get the passing of the Federal Reserve and then in 1914 you have World War I bam, you know which at itself, especially when these guys were a part of General Electric I think they had a lot to do with I mean. There's a whole bunch of other corporations, but maybe this was like the beginning of the you know, military industrial complex they're just now. They have basically a printing system for money, you know.
Speaker 3:And then I was thinking, you know like, okay, so that makes sense for the Federal Reserve to a reason why you know to push it so hard. And then you have World War II, which then that started the federal income tax. So now you know you have it's just a money making business. It's almost like a banking cartel.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, and I think this is probably just the continuation of it. I'm looking up when the Banana Wars were, which was wars in South America, that the United States had been fighting in and 1898,. Yeah, so like we had guys financing that and basically we just went down there, took some, took over shit, made a bunch of money like the JP Morgan's and stuff like that. Have you guys ever I'm?
Speaker 3:sorry, but yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So I think there's just a continuation of starting wars for and problems for profit For profit yeah.
Speaker 2:Right, and I think it's at one point around all this early 1900s, late 1800s that it was profitable that they could start a war, play both sides, play both positions, and then their manufacturers are making all the boots, making all the engines, making all the tanks, making all the jeeps, making all the guns, and that's all their money. So they're raking this in and now they're getting good at it. World War I and then World War II comes around and they've mastered this. And now these days, look what we're at now.
Speaker 3:It's like dude, so it's funny.
Speaker 2:You just said, there it's kind of out of the bag. It's funny.
Speaker 3:I just said that were their masters. So, like what I got to go back to the movie Titanic, right? So when they're in the first class ball and it's basically like the captain's dinner if you've ever been on the cruise, this is what was going on on the Titanic and you know they're all having fun and they're all talking at the dinner table and it's funny like seeing these actors act. You know out these super important people back in the day and so so all the men kind of get up and they're all kind of like all right, boys, it's time to go and get you know, time for cigars and drinks and all this kind of stuff.
Speaker 1:Lois from the Hoors.
Speaker 3:And so so they said, they said to the ladies you guys stay here, you know. And Rose basically looks at Leo, leonardo DiCaprio and is like, hey, you know, if you want to go with them, this is the guy time. And so she makes a comment, dude, and she's, I had to write it down. She makes a comment, she goes oh, you don't want to go, they left to be, they left to go be the masters of the universe. And I was like what the fuck? Like?
Speaker 3:and then another girl, another lady, was like yeah, they're going to go talk about politics and all this other stuff. And I was just like, oh OK, hollywood, slip that one in there, dude, ok.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, oh yeah I get it.
Speaker 3:That's kind of interesting.
Speaker 2:I'm going to have to go watch that now, when you watch the rewatch the movie after doing this, you'll start to pick up on little things. Oh, my god, oh yeah.
Speaker 3:You'll start to pick up on all kinds of little things, dude.
Speaker 2:It's funny when you brought up her introducing that millionaire earlier, the wealthy guy. What's his name? Alster Astor.
Speaker 1:Astor.
Speaker 2:Astor, I remember that Right, when you said that I haven't seen the movie in years. I remember her introducing. It was like they purposely like and he wasn't a character in the movie, right, he didn't have any lines?
Speaker 3:really no, he did talk a little bit, but it was more of like a introduction.
Speaker 2:Breachly, it's just that. But I remember that moment. It's like they put that in there for a reason.
Speaker 3:They put that in there purposely. Come on, man.
Speaker 2:And you can say you know it's historical purposes there was a man that was actually on the boat. He died right he died, he died yeah. And then you said his pregnant wife got out. According to historical record yes, OK, so I wonder where they were. They ended up his kid and her.
Speaker 3:It's funny Dude that whole scene right there. I watched it like three different times. And in the beginning of that scene, when they're entering into the ball, rose's friend or something, says to Leo or something like that, like oh look, now you're a part of the club, or something like that.
Speaker 1:I'm just like.
Speaker 3:OK, they're putting little things in here, little notes, and it's kind of funny. I'm like these fucking guys. They're speaking the truth, they're right in front of everybody.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's the conspiracy, right? Hollywood puts it right in front of your face to tell you the truth the older we get, the more we see right, we start noticing these things.
Speaker 3:That's crazy.
Speaker 1:We were so dumb. How do we not know this stuff? I know I know, Like if you ask a normal person, not someone like the three of us, they're never going to notice it either.
Speaker 3:So when I saw that, I was like all right, let me look into the European area over there, Because I still do think the crown does exist and I do think the crown has a lot of power around the world. And so looking going back and looking it up. I'm going to see what you guys think of this. So have you ever heard of the Committee of 300?
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, I'm not too familiar with it, but I have You've never heard of this.
Speaker 3:OK, so the Committee of 300, also known as the Olympians, claims to be a powerful group founded by the British aristocracy in 1727 and rules the world. Proponents of the theory alleging the committee's existence believe it to be an international council that organizes politics, commerce, banking, media and military for centralized global efforts. And so what? What year did you say? That was founded 1727. This was founded 1727.
Speaker 2:This was all presented Before America.
Speaker 3:This was all presented by Before this shit by a German politician called Walter Rathinau or Rathinau or something like that, and he posted in a 1909 article called Neuen Fris Briss. I'm not German, so please forgive my pronunciation.
Speaker 1:What this immediately brings to mind. I brought up the Wikipedia, which I realized that's what you were reading from.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So started in 1727, founded by a British aristocracy. But just right out of the off the top of my head, this immediately makes me think of Bohemian Grove.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, mm-hmm Well before the Bohemian Grove they were called the Bohemian Club. They were first the Bohemian Club out of San Francisco, but it obviously has its traces back to probably Europe, and what I found it funny is that they were also known as the Olympians and the first ship was called the Olympic so. I have a theory here, and this is kind of like going way over the top.
Speaker 1:You know what else they called them. What 300 elders of Zion, mm.
Speaker 2:Oh, that is hitting it, that's hitting it on the head.
Speaker 1:Which I personally think the elders of Zion thing is bullshit personally, but I think a lot of that.
Speaker 2:I think a lot of the Zion stuff is true, but I think that's one thing that these elites are good at. They're good at scrambling information and making you second guess everything.
Speaker 3:Yeah. But, so in the article that Walter Rathinu, or whatever he mentions that these are 300 men, all of whom know one another, guide the economic destinies of the continent and seek their successors for their own milieu. I don't even know how to pronounce that Fuck, I'm stupid, but it's just a bunch of oligarchies, like Louis says. It kind of relates to the elders of Zion and stuff, which I do think there's a lot of truth to that, but then again, every squirrel finds a nut. You know what I'm saying, so it's kind of interesting.
Speaker 3:Oh, so back to my theory and I want to get your take on this. So what if there was a war, an unseen war right Between and this is not like a physical war, but what if there was an unseen war between these banking elites? And it was a war for power, it was a war for greed, it was a war for who wants the bag.
Speaker 3:Ok, and taking out these people on this shit who were opposed to the Federal Reserve was a dire need for one side. And it's kind of like maybe they put it right in front of your face with the Greek mythology names, and it's kind of like what Louis said. And I just thought of this theory here that what if it's how Louis said, the Titans versus the Olympians, and this is kind of like the Battle of the Gods or whatever, and they had to kill a motherfucker to take first place. They had to get rid of these men so that they can push their agenda, so that they could be on top, and they just fell into the money too, taking these guys out, because I'm sure they had shares in certain areas or whatever and other things, assets that these guys owned, guys like Aster and the other people that died on the ship, but maybe it was because there was a war for the banking system.
Speaker 1:I don't know Very plausible.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure. It's so funny about all of these theories about the Titanic. They all kind of fit together in one puzzle. It's one of the conspiracy theories that has multiple, but they all it's the same thing, they all fit together, they all make sense, like all the conspiracy theories could be. It's just weird. It's just weird. So, it makes sense though.
Speaker 3:What do you guys think of the wreckage? Do you think that it's controlled? In a way to where they only want certain people going down there to evaluate the wreckage and all this kind of stuff. Even my wife, even brought up to me. Shout out to my wife, love you. She even said that and Louis, let's fact check this, we're going to put her on blast.
Speaker 3:So she said that there's a certain bacteria that's starting to grow on the ship, that is technically eating away at the ship, and to me it kind of sounds like a natural event that can occur when you're 13,000 feet deep in the ocean.
Speaker 2:For years and years and years and years.
Speaker 3:And but all of a sudden there's a bacteria that's starting to eat away the ship. Maybe they planted some shit down there. Maybe they got a freaking. They got to eat up the evidence man. They figured to destroy it.
Speaker 1:It's possible, yeah, but also how often do people go down there and check on the ship?
Speaker 2:So it could be a natural activity. Yeah, my thing with all that is if they were, if you're theorizing that they're trying to destroy the evidence, they could have dropped a bomb, they could have brought explosives down there and destroyed all of them.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but you don't want to do things in daylight, right? You kind of want to do it at night.
Speaker 1:What I'm saying is you drop a bomb down there, you're going to have Bacteria eating the ship seems like a really long game to play.
Speaker 2:It's a long game.
Speaker 1:Yeah, sure, because no one's allowed down there to begin with. So who gives a fuck if it stays there?
Speaker 2:Well, why is there? If they have direct energy weapons, why don't they just open the bottom of the floor up and swallow that fucker?
Speaker 1:I might have to switch computers. This one is.
Speaker 3:I'm looking it up right now and it says it's called Halo-Philic Species of Bacteria. That was first isolated in 2010 from rusticles recovered from the wreck of the RMS Titanic.
Speaker 1:Rusticles.
Speaker 2:Rusticles, yeah, the rusts texticles.
Speaker 1:The rusticles they're showing.
Speaker 2:Interesting, so 2011,. They found this 2010. 2010. Yeah, interesting.
Speaker 3:And I think the whole Ocean Gate thing too. Who, well, part of them are owned and controlled by, I believe, rothschilds, david D Rothschilds, blackrock, all that shit, all that kind of stuff. And it makes me think that maybe the Ocean Gate scenario puts a lot of fear and a lot of independent deep sea corporations that are going down and doing deep sea exploration and all this kind of stuff, because I'm assuming that there's a good amount of independent journalists and independent investigators that would like to go down and do their own thing down there.
Speaker 2:I'm sure they've tried too. I'm sure there's plenty that have tried.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, for sure, I'm sure they have.
Speaker 2:Scared of their fucking life, but yeah.
Speaker 3:I think it's James Cameron who holds the most deep sea submarine dimes down there I believe that's correct. I think he's gone down there I think 33 times too. I got to look that up. I think I heard that, but I found that interesting.
Speaker 1:Doesn't he have a crate of wine or something that came off of there?
Speaker 3:Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:That would be amazing. I would have drank that. I'd already drank it. Just to say I drank it. Sorry folks, All right, so A crate of wine that's probably worth $1 billion.
Speaker 3:This is what it says. So, first of all, his submarine is called the Titan, which went oh. So he has a. So the Titan submarine which went missing on an expedition to view the Titanic shipwreck on oh no, this is talking about the Ocean Gate thing.
Speaker 2:But yeah.
Speaker 3:So, shortly after this, it says that he has made 33 dives to the Titanic wreckage site himself over the years 33.
Speaker 2:33. That's a Masonic numerological number.
Speaker 3:I think he'll stop there Specific number and he's yeah, yeah, he doesn't have any more than 33.
Speaker 2:Interesting, very interesting.
Speaker 3:OK.
Speaker 2:So what's the significance of that number? Let's talk about that number just briefly.
Speaker 3:Well, the significance is it's the highest degree of Freemasonry that I guess you can reach to. I mean, maybe there's more that we don't know about, but publicly it's numerology.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Publicly.
Speaker 2:We know that it's the highest degree that you could reach as Freemason. I've heard there was higher or something like that too. But numerology there's numbers one through nine, like life path numbers. There's numbers one through nine, and then there's 11, 22, and 33. And they all are significant, but 33 is like the highest form of life. That you know, so what was Jesus? Jesus died at 33.
Speaker 3:I think he died.
Speaker 2:Is that?
Speaker 3:correct. They say yes, but I've also read some things. He died 32 AD, which I don't know how old that would make him, but who knows? Anyways, Interesting.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's just a number that the elites like to use. That's a fact. 33 is a number that the elites tend to use. 11 is another number. It's a lot of numerology. The elites like to use numerology in these kinds of arts, these kinds of forms of stuff.
Speaker 3:But what does the numerology do? Though Is it like up.
Speaker 2:It's just like anything else You're dictating, you're telling. So it's just like astrology in a way. So you're able to tell the future, you're able to tell the past, you're able to control 28,. If you look like 28 is a number that's used for wealth and numerology, and if you look at Rolex's advertisements all their advertisements the number you'll see on the Rolex is going to be 28. So you fact check me on that one too. That's another interesting thing I saw. But yeah, for whatever reason, the elites like to use numerology, they believe there's power behind it and that's why that number is significant. It's very interesting.
Speaker 1:I can believe that. Let's see here New to numerology. Here's what you need to know.
Speaker 2:Oh god, I've heard there's a lot of yeah, I shouldn't say misinformation, because I haven't looked too far into it, but I've heard a couple people talk about googling numerology and getting the results that aren't real, that aren't true to numerology. Let's hear it, though. What do you got? What?
Speaker 1:do you got? Let's listen. What is numerology? It's a method of divination that uses numbers to symbolize the vibrational patterns which make up our human experience. And it's a broad statement, yeah, so simply put, numerology is a method of interpreting the numbers in your life so you can reveal personal insights about it who you are, who you will become, how you will personally achieve abundance, the challenges you will face in life, personal strengths and how to use them to your advantage.
Speaker 2:Yada yada, yada blah, blah, blah. And you got to ask yourself why do you? Yeah, so why?
Speaker 1:So there's schools of numerology too, Sorry. Pathegorie and numerology, also known as. Western numerology, or modern numerology, claims lineage back going to Pythagoras the Greek philosopher. Ok, then the Caldy and numerology where people who rule ancient Babylonia, caldy and numerology verifies its roots in antiquity through cuneiform tablets dating back thousands of years.
Speaker 2:Oh, the cuneiform tablets. Again, here are these cuneiform tablets. A lot of people don't believe in them, but there was thousands of them found.
Speaker 1:So the difference is here. Sorry, I keep interrupting you.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, go ahead.
Speaker 1:Now these two systems, the Caldy and numerology, is based on the vibration that a number represents even before it is spoken, while the pthegorean system Consider each single digit in relation to the alphabetical letters in a strict.
Speaker 2:I've heard that. Yeah, I've heard that the English language is actually the most advanced numerological language and Hebrew Was the first of its kind. I believe in it is tied to numerology. I Don't know too much about that, but that's what I've heard. Well, there's a also very same.
Speaker 1:There's a version called Kabbalah numerology, which is what you just said. A fascinating strand of numerology is the Kabbalah system, which is based on the Hebrew alphabet Most mystical art and uses only the name. Usually one needs to be especially trained and or have studied extensively to understand the system and its number meanings.
Speaker 2:Seems like a very interesting.
Speaker 3:I See a very common denominator with all those things?
Speaker 1:Numbers.
Speaker 3:I feel like it's all number feel like it's all connected, like all the, all the Religions or the pagan religions and all. Everything is just kind of like got some sort of connection with all that stuff, like the Kabbalah and, and you know, the Babylonian, mesopotamian, meadow, persian, all that kind of stuff. It's got so many things that, like you know, they have in common. It's kind of like the whole, like Nephilim story and the whole All that kind of stuff throughout all the ages there's. There's just similarities with all that stuff right.
Speaker 2:It seems like it's all coming from one source and then just telephone game gaming out right, oh yeah yeah, yeah. So where we at you were, you were talking about the 33 you got 33 dives by James Cameron.
Speaker 3:Okay, 33 dives by.
Speaker 2:James Cameron Okay, yeah, and obviously that guy's a fucking billionaire, so he's a part of the elites too. So there's a reason. Probably. There's most likely a reason why he stopped at 33, because that's like the max life path number. Right, that's the tippy, tippy top like I've reached that. I'm just gonna keep it there. Hold it. Symbolic to numerology.
Speaker 1:Yeah you know, I mean that works.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think there's something that they like to do as far as Going to something that's very tall and Going to something that's very deep. It's kind of like mm. It's kind of like reaching well a lot of like occultists and a lot of you know Missing, like flying to Mars, all these things like going to Mars and going to the deepest part of the yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:something like that, like there's something about it, there's something, there's some sort of Vibration that they receive, you know, trying to do these things, or something you know what I'm saying like there's some sort of I Don't know if it's energy or whatever purpose some sort of purpose or some Some sort of understanding that I don't understand.
Speaker 1:That virgin Atlantic billionaire dude, richard Branson.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yep, yep has he ever done Submariner stuff?
Speaker 3:Hmm, cuz we know he's been ah, he's been to the top right, he's been to the stratosphere, and then yeah, I'm wondering if he's gone below, Well so.
Speaker 2:I think I think he has, I think I saw.
Speaker 3:I think James Cameron's also been to the Mariana trench. I mean, that's gotta be fucking moon. That's gotta be deeper than. The Titanic 12,000 feet right, I mean I think the Titanic's at 12,000 feet oh.
Speaker 2:Dude.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the Mariana trenches 10s, isn't it like 20,000 feet or something like that, like what the fuck are they doing, naming this shit miles or something, but my thing is like it could just be a cool thing to do. I totally I could. I could totally agree that it could be a cool thing to do something, to flaunt something.
Speaker 1:I mean, if you've got the kind of dough that they got, like what else you got, man? I know, I know we'll do something like that yeah how are?
Speaker 2:you out of money, All right. You know what kind of crazy shit.
Speaker 1:I would be doing.
Speaker 2:You mean what kind of crazy shit we would be doing?
Speaker 3:with you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, hopefully me too, mother. Yeah, and also you've, I think you saved my life at Calico base almost fell out. I fell off a cliff, I guess.
Speaker 3:So, jesse, I saw you face first into a desert tree, and those are not like normal trees, like here in Florida where it's got a little bit of more side to it. Maybe it's got some. You know it's got some water content in it. You hit this bitch dude and I thought splinters were going through your soul.
Speaker 2:You know what? It's deceiving because they're so dry, it just they just flake right off, like the trees here. The bark Just flakes right off. So if you run into it, you're good baby boy, you'd be fine, I thought.
Speaker 3:I thought a little bush out there, kick my ass. And I was like the bushes are worse.
Speaker 2:Bushes are worse than the trees. The bushes all have fucking like spears on them. They're designed so you can't fuck with them. They're just there's prick or bushes everywhere out here. Oh yeah, it's terrible, Terrible. Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 3:It's good stuff, man.
Speaker 2:It's almost like Australia Without an ocean. I thought without croc at all.
Speaker 3:So just going back to you know the main subject of the show, you know there's another theory that I think that I could understand and it kind of could just be like a deterrent away from the, the real shit that took place, which I Believe in, the very theory we've been talking about this whole time, about Titanic, like with my soul and so, but the which, oh, so the other theory is the is the fire in the cold bunker theory, if you guys heard anything.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, that's the same. It's the same, exact. So that theory ties in with the Olympic, sure? So before they even took off, right, there was a fire in the Cold bunker right on the bottom of the ship and there's pictures were, supposedly you can see the char marks on the outside of the ship. So it was smoldering. Right, and that theory. You can go ahead and explain the rest, but it that's a good. I like that theory too, yeah it's based, the whole theory.
Speaker 3:Well, it's not even a theory. It actually happened, but the theory is is that actually happen right place on the Titanic. We're saying it's possibly bullshit. They happened on another ship that looks just like the ship.
Speaker 2:But the whole, the whole.
Speaker 3:Thing the whole thing is about fire broke out a little fire room. This is. This is the room that runs the engines, it runs the motors, it runs a lot of, you know, hydraulic machinery that needs to spin this propeller, and so you know the fire broke out and it was ten days prior to the ship's departure.
Speaker 2:Like you, you know, like you were saying wow it was ten days prior, is prior yet so, but the thing is it's not, not normal, it's, it's normal. No, it's coming, it's coming like cold.
Speaker 3:We know this, louis. Like coal and and carbon and nitrogen, these gas builds up. It can self-combust, and what they do to try and stop the fires that Happen in in in these rooms is that they just start feeding the fire even more.
Speaker 3:They'll start feeding the fires even more, trying to use that coal that's combusting and get it into that. You know the furnaces and so this kind of also Relays into maybe why those the? The ship was at full speed when it, when it struck the Iceberg. Obviously they didn't see the iceberg, you know they saw it last second. You know, most likely and Didn't, they didn't have enough time to get out of the way. But you know that communication with the, with the bunker room, and the captain was all off of I think what do they call it? It's not Morse code, but it's kind of like I Forget what it is. It's like it's a lever system that is like Supposed to be communication between both parties and so Like they can move a lever system back and forth and back, and it's like in us it's in a slot that means do this, or they move it back forth, back forth, back, and it's in a slot that means no, do this or whatever.
Speaker 3:And so maybe this can explain you know why the ship was going full speed, or maybe you know this was just all part of the plan, but it was reported to say that the fire burnt for seven days, and so you know that steel and rivets and I think the ship was put together with rivets which is basically like bolting sheets of steel together, it's not just like one big, huge piece and you know it can weaken the steel, it can, it can you know Degrade it warp.
Speaker 3:Yeah, do all kinds of stuff Operates? Oh yeah, all that kind of all that kind of stuff, and so it could be an explanation why you know why the iceberg did as much damage as you know Was done, and all that kind of stuff one important one and really important part that we kind of left out with that is that they knew the fire was burning down, yeah, and, like you said, they fed it.
Speaker 2:There's like a certain protocol that they use, but they knew about this and it's almost like they had. This is exactly why I believe it was just an insurance scam, you know, and I'm sure there's more to it than just that, like we're talking about there. They probably had assassins on the boat to to kill their adversaries. Sounds crazy, but when you look into the whole story it makes a lot of sense yeah they had multiple ways out.
Speaker 2:They had. They had plan a, plan B, plan C, plan D. You know they had multiple different plans and you know I mean they knew about the fire.
Speaker 3:If they did plan this, how long? How long do you think it would take to plan this event?
Speaker 2:You have to really think this shit out like Sit down with me, with it with a glass of scotch. Me and another guy that are funding the whole thing, we'll sit down with a glass of scotch or some 15 minutes to play another week or get everybody on board, and I know this guy, I know this guy, know this guy and just give them a call the next day in.
Speaker 1:Because you got our plans people that rich, especially back then, already had fixers like they knew they. They were elite, but they knew the people at the bottom that made shit happen.
Speaker 3:Dude, I'm wondering if they chose to do this option, if they chose to kill these guys on this boat, because it leaves the people that are responsible for it to. You're on a boat. You're unable to blame them per se. You know? I'm saying be like dude. What the fuck? You know that the Aster families turn into the Rothschild's families and the JP Morgan families and all this new motherfucker? You killed my fucking son, you know? No, I didn't they. They had an iceberg brah. I swear, dude, we didn't do anything.
Speaker 1:I promise man, you know it can easily you know be a good.
Speaker 2:Here's another. Here's another little good story about this too. They had trouble so there's a coal shortage in Britain at the time and they actually had trouble finding the the engine room guys. Right, the guys are gonna shovel the coal into the engine. They had trouble finding coal guys and I think the real reason they had trouble finding guys and trouble finding staff is because they knew what was going on, like there was there's a lot of people and there's a lot of letters that probably were destroyed. There's a lot of people that knew that this was gonna happen and they got the word. The word got out into the street because, like Louis said, they use they, these rich people, know all the little guys that make shit. They make the shit happen. The guys that repaired the boat, the guys that you know the Olympic, the guys that repaired the Olympic. The way they repaired it was it. They Jimmy rigged it. They, they're Matt, they're great at what they're doing, but that's not the right way to repair the boat. Yeah, they're probably like one of the left.
Speaker 1:Yo, I wouldn't work in that engine room if, how are you?
Speaker 2:saying exactly exactly I. It's exactly what happened, and One of the one of the guys that was on the boat has a letter that he wrote. I can't remember if he died on the boat or not, but he wrote in the letter that there was, the ship had a slight tilt on it at the dock station and that was from the damages when the, the military boat hit that hit the Olympic. That's what happened. It and had this, this slight tilt, and this guy in his letter said he documented that, said this boat has, and he called it something specific. But he noted that in a letter and Documents show that the damage of the boat did that, the Olympic did that. So I'm, I'm a hundred percent, I'm, I'm a quarter of a banana on all this. As far as an insurance scam, as far as switching the Titanic and the Olympic, it's, it's so. There's so much evidence, do we?
Speaker 3:have any idea what they did with the supposed Olympic ship. Did they end up destroying it or did they end up Deconstructing it?
Speaker 2:or the supposed Olympic ship, which is actually the Titanic. That's exactly what I brought up earlier. I said to Christian I go, you know where's the? I said where's the Titanic right now? And she goes, some rich fucking trillionaire. Hey, he's. He's got it somewhere. He's got it Noah's Ark, down top of a hill on his island, somewhere she's.
Speaker 3:Miss you.
Speaker 2:There was a third. Yeah, I mean, like what was the third ship called what? There was a third ship.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so Olympic was the class ship. It was the Olympic, the Titanic and the oh shit, I didn't know.
Speaker 2:There's three ships. Oh See, this is the great part about this they just get you to focus on the two ships, and Now there's a third. I didn't know about the third ship.
Speaker 1:Second my second computer is moving super slow tonight be back.
Speaker 3:So, going back to the guess, we could talk a little bit about this. The Greek mythology. I'm reading here that it says and again, I don't know how true this is, but it says that there's a. That's. That's the name of the third ship. Yeah but was it like another replica of the Titanic?
Speaker 1:So this says Titanic had two sister ships, the Olympic and the Britannic. They were built by the white star line to compete in Transatlantic passenger trade. The Olympic was the first to be launched 1911, followed by a Titanic 1912. The Britannic 1914. Britannic was converted into a hospital ship during World War one, sank in the Aegean Sea.
Speaker 3:Gotcha Interesting. So, looking at the, the whole Greek mythology, since this is what, like, the ships, are all named after there were there's first, second and third generations. The first generation there they're primordial gods, this is where I was getting at earlier. A second generation is the 12 Titans. The third generation is 12 Olympians and numerous minor gods. So I don't know necessarily if they're, if the first generation is Even with the second generation. I just I'm assuming that, since they are the first generation, no, they're there words.
Speaker 1:So like the first generation. So it would have been Kronos, it would have been. Arabus, I believe, which is darkness, then the other ones equate to like light and earth and stuff like that. I came from the names right now. Gotcha and then I think the Sun might have been one of them.
Speaker 3:Gotcha, gotcha.
Speaker 1:He leos. I don't know, he leos might have been a secondary.
Speaker 3:So what do?
Speaker 1:you think?
Speaker 3:what do you think about this whole Federal Reserve theory? Do you think it's you know, a good idea what happened?
Speaker 1:Good.
Speaker 3:I mean not a good idea. Am I happy that?
Speaker 1:there's a Federal Reserve.
Speaker 3:No, no, like, like. Do you think you know that this is that the Titanic is what led to the Federal Reserve? Like, do you think that I?
Speaker 1:Think the Federal Reserve was coming regardless and the Titanic was just the plan that worked.
Speaker 3:Yeah, for sure, if it was gonna come in time, there would have been other plans. Yeah, like the central bank was gonna come in time. It's just it was accelerated since, you know, things took place on the Titanic and everything like that Accelerated or did it happen exactly Right? Right, I guess I mean like accelerated, like instead of it happening. In 1933 that plan succeeded and now it took place. So why do you? Why do?
Speaker 2:you think it would happen? Why do you think he has accelerated? You know what I mean? Like, I feel like this is all, like what I'm saying going to plan. Even if they didn't, even if they didn't sink the boat.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think they would have gotten killed.
Speaker 3:I think they're sinking the boat to get their make their money back On well, you got a and the time lost think of the threshold, though, like the Federal Reserve, was being talked about for Years before it was passed, and it's always been an idea. I mean, I think it's always been an idea since the redcoats were here. I think that it's it's. It's a way that you know Europe actually is still here, running America, I think, even after is there a? Solution that this is the crown is here. The crown holds power still and, if anything, it holds power over our economics. I mean entirely.
Speaker 2:You know, was there a? Was there a Federal Reserve in other countries, like a type of Federal Reserve?
Speaker 3:Well, I know that there's. I know that there's central banks. There was just never a central bank in the United States. So the way these central banks work is just they're they're all connected. It's a big kind of like you know. I just compare it to like a pyramid scheme or a chain of command and you know. I mean there's. There's central banks all over the world. There's a Japan central bank, Germany, you know, germany central bank.
Speaker 3:There's all kinds of these countries have their central banks and you know, in order to get one in America, I think it had to be, it had to be done in a way to where the people would accept it. You, know.
Speaker 2:So your take on this is that the sinking, the tragic sinking of the Titanic at the very tragic, tragic event, intense event, you're thinking that that that accelerated the Federal Reserve.
Speaker 3:I think so because I think the the most wealthiest family in the world, which was the Aster family at that time, that Jacob Aster was taken out, which allowed think of him as like, like I said or like a like a like a like a princess. Diana, you know they have all the power but they're not for the agenda. Wow yeah.
Speaker 2:And so you know. You said he owned 40% of the world's debt. You know.
Speaker 3:so like, if you, if you pretty much Like what the fuck Pretty much? Yeah, think of him as BlackRock today. And so no one, no one could do it.
Speaker 2:I like how you said earlier, like no one could do. You said he's a he might be a good guy.
Speaker 3:He might be he might have stood for different values than the rest of the elites. The heat.
Speaker 2:That makes sense.
Speaker 1:Okay, you know, I'm like Elon Musk.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2:I think Elan's got some a wolf and sheep's clothing. Yeah, I think.
Speaker 3:Elan's got some stuff going on, but you.
Speaker 2:You think Elan's a wolf and sheep's clothing.
Speaker 1:Oh, definitely.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But, as far as he's as far as elites go, he at least portrays himself as a solid human being.
Speaker 2:He portrays that and it's so funny, like the same thing with Trump. It's like I'm not going to get in Trump right now, but Elon, he hasn't really done anything really. He took over Twitter, changed the name to Axe recently.
Speaker 1:X Corp and no, I'm not even talking about that, like that's probably one of the dumbest things he's done.
Speaker 2:No, I know, I'm just saying I'm just the sheep's, the wolf and sheep's clothing thing makes sense because it's like he hasn't. People glorify him but he hasn't really changed the game as far as like everybody's glorifying him for free speech stuff, but he hasn't really done a lot of free speech stuff, he just bought a company and I think when I think us, you know people like you know we'd like to hear what we want to hear.
Speaker 3:So you know so when we're listen, I feel like people today will will. They can see the bullshit that might be going on, but if someone's telling them what they want to hear, they'll go. Ah, fuck that shit, like they'll just go. Yeah, I like what he's saying.
Speaker 1:My my thing for for Elon isn't that he's doing all these things for free, free speech, or or that I was making a comparison to what Stevie said, where he's one of the richest guys in the world. He is an elite, but he's not going along with the elite program.
Speaker 2:That, that's what I'm saying, Like Elon, yeah.
Speaker 1:Sure, and then you could even similarly kind of he's verbally, I got it.
Speaker 2:He's verbally not going along I just our brains touched.
Speaker 1:I don't care about his free speech shit because I think right other than like he would use Twitter before to put people on blast. Like I found that funny but, like the fact that he bought Twitter and renamed it to X and it's like I don't.
Speaker 2:I don't give a shit about social media in general, so right, right, but it's such a huge influence, it's like the biggest influence in the world.
Speaker 1:No, it definitely is, and I just I was just trying to make the comparison to what Stevie said. Oh, no, yeah You're. Yeah, you're Astor.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think you're dead on with the Astor. The comparison for sure. Yeah, yeah, he's not going along with it but or is he?
Speaker 3:is he Right, right?
Speaker 2:now, right, Maybe Bonson, Golly Verbally, he's verbally his statements, because that's all Twitter is is just, it's like just written down ideologies You're, you're, you're echo chamber and I think that's. You know, it's tough with Elon. He's what is he?
Speaker 3:He's, he's, he's as Asperger's, Because you can't, I think, I think so.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think he does. I mean, yeah, he's high, functioning, high functioning, high fun oh yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2:He said he does. He is so hard to like because he's and I love he's so outside of the box. You know he's like. I don't care that you're concerned. You're concerned that you're conservative, left, right, whatever you are, but I don't. You know there's. I was thinking this today, like, and I've thought it so many times you can, I can agree with. I hate these names conservative and and liberal and and independent. It's like most people are legitimately independent. You know we all can pull ideologies from every echo chamber and that makes sense and that is smart. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:Uh huh.
Speaker 2:It's just so funny that they everybody boxes themselves in. Elon Musk doesn't do that. He doesn't. He's not going to box himself in and call himself just a liberal you know what's funny dude. Which he might. I don't know.
Speaker 3:I wouldn't assume that he would Something just clicked and it's kind of like what we're talking about and it's from the movie Titanic and you know how, like they, I'm telling you go watch the movie, dude, they will literally slide little things like they're almost subliminal in a way, but you could see it to where you're like, holy shit, like this is so psychological. I'm getting fucked up from here from watching this again. But so Rose, right, rose is, is is topless.
Speaker 2:She is topless In the gutter.
Speaker 3:You know. But so yes, she is topless in part of the movie. Uh, I think it was like 54 minutes in 37 seconds. Does it Wait? Does it actually show her, does it?
Speaker 2:show her set.
Speaker 3:Oh, it does, Her puppies, it does. Yeah, yeah, she was my first crush. I can't comment on it right now. Crush, I'm not allowed to. I'm not allowed to. I'm not allowed to watch it. I'm not allowed to watch that.
Speaker 2:I don't even want to watch it. I'm not allowed to do that.
Speaker 3:All right. So I found something interesting too. I swear, when I watch these movies, I'm paying attention, bro. I'm like listening, hearing, tasting, smelling. I'm in it bro. No, no, no, and not topless. All right, let me get a move. You're digging yourself.
Speaker 2:You're digging yourself oh bro Brittany, you know what kind of movies you watch.
Speaker 3:Brittany is about to turn that corner in a second, fuck Listen. So, rose, right, she just got caught having a fun time with Leonardo and they were having a party and she left the elite ball to go and go have fun with all the peasants. And so the next morning, you know, everyone's pissed at her because she's outside of her class, like she's not doing what an elite does, you know.
Speaker 3:And I swear that the character that Rose was playing is that they are showing the viewer this is my theory what Jacob, where Jacob Astor was coming from, maybe. So yes, she's an elite, but she doesn't like how they function. She doesn't agree.
Speaker 1:Oh wow, she doesn't agree with she doesn't, I'm telling you I'm going, I'm going deep here.
Speaker 3:She doesn't agree with their philosophies, their, their understanding. Okay, and so Rose's mom is putting a jewelry necklace around you know, her neck and everything, and she's telling Rose, like you know, you're out of line. You need to, you need to do what we do as, as, and do it for the name of the family, Because it's everything. It's our legacy, it's like it's, it's, it's our life, and if we decide to give it away, it'll be taken away from us. And I was like holy shit oh wow, what if?
Speaker 3:this is where Astor was maybe coming from. He was born into a family, you know where, where they ran the world, and you know he just was against certain things, you know which. We know he was against the Federal Reserve, and so you know his, his idea was that he has all this power. He's got the name, he's born into it and you know he's going to make a difference. And well, who do it? It's a trend, man Like, when we see people that are, you know, involved in these elite families, that are the opposition within the family, they get whacked, bro. They get whacked.
Speaker 2:They get killed.
Speaker 1:John F Kennedy.
Speaker 3:John F Ke dude. Oh my God, bro, bro, it's coming together, bro, it's coming together. You got Princess Diana. Astor JFK. My mind is boggling right now.
Speaker 1:Telling me no, yeah, but my my. So I'm thinking about Astor here and your. Your question about if I think that's itonic accelerated the Federal Reserve to kind of bring it back a couple steps from what you were talking about. So I feel like it didn't so much accelerate it but made it so that it was no longer delayed and that made sense because they had been talking about it for a while.
Speaker 1:Sure, he was the opposition. He was probably putting the kibosh on it over and, over and over again, so he kept delaying it versus accelerating and dude he had.
Speaker 2:Should have played the. Should have played ball buddy.
Speaker 3:It's a banking decision at the end of the day, it's not a political decision. The, the, the Senate, they have nothing to do with it.
Speaker 1:So so we know already he you said he owned a bunch of debt, he was a real estate mogul. He sounds like. He sounds like a bank already.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah Right, oh yeah Right.
Speaker 1:So what if his big opposition was because he didn't want to share?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 2:Oh did that make sense. The central bank.
Speaker 3:Right, okay, wow, okay and he was giving everybody else the finger. You could look at it that way for sure. Absolutely, I think it's good to look at it that way.
Speaker 2:He wanted a whole power you know, oh, dude, that makes so much sense. That's, that's, that's exact. I'm I'm blindly, willfully saying that's exactly what it is. That's a hundred percent correct.
Speaker 3:And maybe I mean he could use it for what? I think he could use it for whatever power he power trip. He wants to go down, you know, if he wants to be big meach and run and control the whole thing and be the black rock of the of the central banking system and in America, you know he can do that Um you know he.
Speaker 2:I wonder how they killed him on the boat. They probably put a 1911 in his mouth Shhh, shhh, yeah, oh, oh, dams, throws that thing in the ocean 1911. I went, 1911.
Speaker 3:Yeah, look, 1911.
Speaker 2:That's a good point.
Speaker 3:Brand new gun, the hottest one on the block.
Speaker 2:Oh, my God. Louis like guns, guns, guns guns, guns.
Speaker 1:Guns I could kind of think, feel like.
Speaker 3:Guns. Maybe it came out 1910 and it was 1911.
Speaker 1:No, I mean it.
Speaker 2:no, I'm thinking because it's called 1911 for a reason, steven.
Speaker 1:Brand new gun like that, trying to think of how expensive it would be, versus like a revolver that a normal person might be able to.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah for sure that was the first magazine fed semi automatic handgun.
Speaker 3:It was still $1500 back in the day.
Speaker 2:It wasn't the first magazine fed.
Speaker 1:No, Colt had their little 1903, which was.
Speaker 2:Oh shit, that's right, you're right. Which was? I've seen one of those two, the little tiny like pocket, is it? 380 or 3? Yeah, it's some weird caliber.
Speaker 1:It's like 32, I think.
Speaker 2:Yes, yep, 32 caliber.
Speaker 1:So like they were.
Speaker 2:I think you're right about that they existed prior to I don't.
Speaker 1:I don't remember who was the first one. You're right.
Speaker 2:I forgot. I look, I remember looking that up to 1903. Jesus Louise, I'm bored. Yeah, so he homeboy got 1903 or 1911.
Speaker 1:Maybe could have just been a derringer or that Couple quick ones little pocket come out of his vest pocket.
Speaker 2:Next to the one side of the watch. The other side of the pocket, or hear me out. They hired samurai to sneak on board ship. They snuck on board and cut his head off Damn, damn, plausible With a katana.
Speaker 3:Or With a katana or they tied his ass to the fucking boat, to the bow, oh man.
Speaker 2:He was doing a fucking Damn.
Speaker 1:I'm king of the world, oh it is oh, oh wow.
Speaker 3:Maybe that's why, Rose bro, oh my gosh, oh my gosh the crucif.
Speaker 2:They crucified his ass on the boat.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they sent him down bro, and then the whole, which side sank?
Speaker 1:first the bow or the stern.
Speaker 2:Well, there's a theory that the water I think the front went down first right.
Speaker 3:The front went down first.
Speaker 2:Yes, the bow went down first, yeah.
Speaker 3:So there's a theory of the watertight doorways and that's. There was issues with the watertight doorways and stuff and because of the watertight doorways being all messed up how they were, which are supposed to be watertight. That it's. It's. It's what caused the boat to snap, or whatever. And Once I got, heavy.
Speaker 1:the other side didn't Right.
Speaker 3:Cause if it was the case, then the boat would have kind of stabilized to the point where it wouldn't have sank, but it would also been submersed.
Speaker 2:So what if they did that?
Speaker 3:shit hooked him up to the front. They knew it was going to snap. Wow Listen, this was a little bit more than 15 minutes in a bourbon.
Speaker 2:Okay, telling you, they, they, they they, they, what if they just got wait, wait, wait, wait. What if they just got creative in the meantime? They just like here, here's some money to the assassins. Sure, Sure. Well, I mean, it took two hours.
Speaker 1:That could have been on the fly. Oh yeah, it could have been.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, they could have gone full cartel, even Crucified him to the prow Fucking.
Speaker 1:Blew his pants down, cut his testicles off, put it in his mouth. Fucking cartel necktie. Oh my God.
Speaker 2:Louis, if you guys don't know what that is, go look it up.
Speaker 3:We can't I don't know if we can put say that Peruvian necktie, yeah, all right. So let's do. Let's do a bananas review here. What do we got? Let's get it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean I'm, I'm, I'm one bite.
Speaker 3:I'm a one bite of a banana Me too. It's, it's, this is all real this happened, it's too much, too much going on, too much line. The real question is.
Speaker 2:The real question is did it accelerate the Federal Reserve? I'll tell you what doesn't fucking matter anymore. It doesn't fucking matter, right? Not anymore. Oh man, yeah.
Speaker 3:I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm game with that man 100%.
Speaker 1:I'm right now imagining uh Aster confronting three assassins. Oh, uh, I'm not sure. Oh, same array, yes, three fucking ninjas, um, and they're. They're trying to get to his wife and child as well, but he's like, oh, wow Get on the boat, Get on the life boat. And she's like you need to come with me. And he, he turns to her Damn, Get on the boat. I'm not fucking leaving.
Speaker 2:I'm not fucking leaving and he's staying he's standing, he's leaning on to the Caprio and right, yeah, he's standing in the.
Speaker 1:he's standing in the narrow hallway of of the ship. Wow Says uh, let's fucking go.
Speaker 3:Let's go, baby, damn Dude we need to remake.
Speaker 1:He says let's dance to that Okay.
Speaker 2:So I got I got an idea. We need to remake Titanic in our version. What we're telling right now, and Jason Statham is um. What's his name? Aster, aster.
Speaker 3:Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:I love it. I love it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we need to fund it.
Speaker 1:Oh man.
Speaker 3:Here we go and he, he. If we could somehow.
Speaker 2:There's gotta be more than three assassins at this point, though, because he's got to kill a few people before you guys. No, there's a whole team of assassins.
Speaker 3:And he fucks them up Transporter style. Transporter style Fuck you.
Speaker 1:Um, you know, we should somehow figure this out, but make it like a 15 minute short Right. Oh dude, I just like clip it into the original James Cameron version.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah, dude. And then we got to play the music soundtrack 100%, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Fuck, I like it. Fuck, yeah, dude, this is great. Yeah, this is a great episode, guys. We did pretty good this is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I enjoyed. It Got really good at the end there. It did, it, did I walked.
Speaker 3:I walked out, for sure, for sure, 100%.
Speaker 2:I walked out and and Christian told me she goes, I go you like in the episode so far, and she's like I actually am really entertained. This is really good. Nice, and she's like I'm not mad at you anymore. Just do as much podcasting as you want.
Speaker 3:Nice.
Speaker 1:I like that dude, I like that, yay, christian.
Speaker 3:Yay, shout out to Christian Yo.
Speaker 2:Yeah, hell yeah.
Speaker 3:All right, so well, okay. Well, this will conclude our episode. We got episode 20 in the books. Thank you everyone for tuning in. Fuck yeah, dude, it got rowdy there at the end. I like it. It was awesome, had a good time. Awesome, yeah, awesome. So if you haven't done, please do so. Like our show, damn it and share it with your friends.
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